[UK-CONTEST] VHF NFD Contest Exchange

Richard Staples g4hgi at yahoo.com
Mon Jul 4 07:50:17 PDT 2011


Hi John, Roger & all


The repetition of information back to the station I think stems from the UKAC

The sometimes huge loss of points in the adjudication process has brought about this second confirmation as way of minimizing any losses for both ends of the qso - its effectiveness is probably yet to be determined.


Yes you are right it can on the face of it seem a waste of time

However over the weekend tuning around on 432 - one "BIG" station actually gave the same serial number twice with consecutive qso's  - so the repetition technique on this occasion did actually work and saved both points !

Its not a procedure that I personally adopt but  hey ho each to their own !

Cheers Richard G4HGI















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From: John Lemay <john at carltonhouse.eclipse.co.uk>
To: Roger at G0BSU.net; UK-Contest at contesting.com
Sent: Monday, 4 July 2011, 13:48
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] VHF NFD Contest Exchange

Roger

Agreed, and it's surely not expecting too much even of relative newcomers to
"imitate" the sequence of information received, but as you say, it arrives
in whatever order it pleases the mind of your qso partner !

And of course, we had our fair share of "don't know my locator so will my
postcode do?", and one who had his locator on the computer, which wasn't
switched on.

It's a delicate balance at the end of the day, because we all want to
encourage people into contesting. We want the points, we want to enjoy the
contest, we want them to enjoy the contest. I think it's fair to say that
some learn a lot quicker than others.

John


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From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Roger Thawley
Sent: 04 July 2011 13:37
To: 'John Lemay'; UK-Contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] VHF NFD Contest Exchange

John,
    I'm inclined to agree - too many end-stopping stations doing this.
If there's some doubt in the mind of the receiving operator, then fair
enough, otherwise please DON'T!

And, while I'm in the mood for a quick 'vent', my other minor irritation is
folks who don't give their report in the order expected by logging programs
- signal, serial, locator. Receiving signal, locator, serial or some other
variant causes excess mouse pad fingering and button pushing, which is too
fiddly on an A5 sized laptop!
I've tried to be subtle in my education of some of the culprits and that
doesn't seem to work so:

SIGNAL, SERIAL, LOCATOR.....SIGNAL, SERIAL, LOCATOR!

Thank you! :-)

Roger, G0BSU (M0GVG/P)

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From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of John Lemay
Sent: 04 July 2011 13:11
To: UK-Contest at contesting.com
Subject: [UK-CONTEST] VHF NFD Contest Exchange

Hi all

I noticed a disturbing new trend in contest exchanges during the weekend. It
seemed that almost every other station we worked would proceed, when it was
their turn, to repeat every detail we had sent them, before sending the
information we needed.

We really don't need confirmation that the other guy got it all. If there
was any doubt, he/she can ask for a repeat. But to repeat everything we
sent, parrot fashion, is surely a waste of time.

I wonder if it was a cunning idea by all the other clubs, who got together
and said "lets make a long-winded qso with G0VHF/P so that they don't win
again"

If that was the plan, it might just have worked! Time will tell - it could
be close again.

CU

John G4ZTR (G0VHF/P) Colchester RA


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