[UK-CONTEST] cqwwwpx

Mon May 30 14:33:27 PDT 2011

I can see the 2012 CW AFS write-up now "Activity levels were at an all
time high with signals being heard all the way up to 3.700 kHz as
contestants battled for a place to be heard"

Cris
GM4FAM

> I was thinking!  In AFS I could have a dipole on a pole fixed to the back
> of the house and one on the mast at the far end of my plot which. They
> would
> be about 1.5 wavelengths apart and oriented by 90 degs. K3 and Acom on one
> antenna with FT1kMP and SB220 on the other. Main run down at around 3520,
> 2nd station around 3565. The only downside is that interleaving depends on
> slick callers on both QRGs.  Hmmm, must apply some thought to this!
>
> Chris G3SJJ
>
>
>
> On 30/05/2011 21:05, Stewart GM4AFF wrote:
>>> One rule for the rich, and one for the rest of us!
>> Sadly, that does seem to be the issue with this thread.
>>
>> Stewart
>> GM4AFF
>>
>> (deliberately open to misinterpretation ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
>> [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of Danny Higgins
>> Sent: 30 May 2011 16:08
>> To: 'Tom GM4FDM'; uk-contest at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] cqwwwpx
>>
>>
>> Tom, it depends on how big your QTH is:
>>
>> (f) All operation must take place from one operating site. Transmitters
>> and
>> receivers must be located within a 500-meter diameter circle or within
>> the
>> property limits of the station licensee, whichever is greater. All
>> antennas
>> must be physically connected by wires to the transmitters and receivers
>> used
>> by the entrant.
>>
>> One rule for the rich, and one for the rest of us!
>>
>> Danny, G3XVR
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
>> [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tom GM4FDM
>> Sent: 30 May 2011 16:01
>> To: uk-contest at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] cqwwwpx
>>
>> Isnt there a 500m rule for antennas?
>>
>>
>> Tom
>> GM4FDM
>>
>>
>>
>> On 30/05/2011 15:25, Bob Henderson wrote:
>>> The idea is that both stations keep their respective frequencies busy
>>> by
>>> interleaving their Qs such that this situation doesn't really arise.
>>> In a
>>> multi-op station there will typically be two operators on a band, each
>> with
>>> his own transceiver but both interlocked to prevent the 2 x signal
>>> infringement.  I understand that two operators well practised in this
>>> particular technique can reliably achieve 140% individual run rate.  So
>> each
>>> station is doing 70% rate of a top flight operator i.e hitting 100 -
>>> 150Q/hr.  Essentially when one transmits the other receives and vice
>> versa.
>>> Both frequencies stay pretty busy. :-)
>>>
>>> This frequency busy but apparently unoccupied phenomena is mostly
>> associated
>>> with SO2R stations where a single operator is QRV on two frequencies.
>>>
>>> Incidentally, I am aware of four operators each with their own
>>> transceiver
>>> and antennas having been deployed on a single band.  Two running
>> interleaved
>>> piles and two sweeping for mults.  Only one carrier transmitted at any
>>> one
>>> time to keep inside the rules of course.
>>>
>>> Terrain is key to this kind of game, as each stations antennas should
>>> be
>> out
>>> of sight of the others on the same band.  Lots of dosh helps too.
>>>
>>> Bob, 5B4AGN
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 30 May 2011 13:22, Rob
>> Harrison<robharrison at g8hgn.freeserve.co.uk>wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> First off let me say I don't operate on HF. But I understand what is
>> going
>>>> on technically.
>>>>
>>>> However what happens when another station finds what he thinks is a
>>>> clear
>>>> freaquency only to be told the frequency is occupied by the said
>>>> station
>> who
>>>> is actually on a different frequency, .i.e. how does the said station
>> keep
>>>> two active frequencies when only transmitting on one, and if he does,
>>>> doesn't that infringe the rules?
>>>>
>>>> Bob G8HGN
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob
>>>> Henderson"<bob.5b4agn at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Callum McC"<callum at mccormick.uk.com>
>>>> Cc: "UK Contest Reflector"<uk-contest at contesting.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 1:46 PM
>>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] cqwwwpx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Exactly Callum.
>>>>>
>>>>> The sponsors are the arbiters and so far they've considered it to be
>>>>> within
>>>>> the rules.  BUT as G3SXW suggests; things may be about to change.  At
>>>>> least
>>>>> wrt CQWW.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob, 5B4AGN
>>>>>
>>>>> On 30 May 2011 12:24, Callum McC<callum at mccormick.uk.com>   wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>    >>>   Whether it was within the spirit of the contest or not
>>>>>> The rules of the game are to win, within the rules. That's the
>>>>>> spirit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are either within the rules - or not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> C.
>>>>>>
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