[UK-CONTEST] cqwwwpx

Mon May 30 22:15:18 PDT 2011

Preceding that statement would be a comment that the number of entrants was down by 50%!!

S'all good fun! SJJ

On 30/05/2011 22:33, cris at gm4fam.plus.com wrote:
> I can see the 2012 CW AFS write-up now "Activity levels were at an all
> time high with signals being heard all the way up to 3.700 kHz as
> contestants battled for a place to be heard"
>
> Cris
> GM4FAM
>
>> I was thinking!  In AFS I could have a dipole on a pole fixed to the back
>> of the house and one on the mast at the far end of my plot which. They
>> would
>> be about 1.5 wavelengths apart and oriented by 90 degs. K3 and Acom on one
>> antenna with FT1kMP and SB220 on the other. Main run down at around 3520,
>> 2nd station around 3565. The only downside is that interleaving depends on
>> slick callers on both QRGs.  Hmmm, must apply some thought to this!
>>
>> Chris G3SJJ
>>
>>
>>
>> On 30/05/2011 21:05, Stewart GM4AFF wrote:
>>>> One rule for the rich, and one for the rest of us!
>>> Sadly, that does seem to be the issue with this thread.
>>>
>>> Stewart
>>> GM4AFF
>>>
>>> (deliberately open to misinterpretation ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
>>> [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of Danny Higgins
>>> Sent: 30 May 2011 16:08
>>> To: 'Tom GM4FDM'; uk-contest at contesting.com
>>> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] cqwwwpx
>>>
>>>
>>> Tom, it depends on how big your QTH is:
>>>
>>> (f) All operation must take place from one operating site. Transmitters
>>> and
>>> receivers must be located within a 500-meter diameter circle or within
>>> the
>>> property limits of the station licensee, whichever is greater. All
>>> antennas
>>> must be physically connected by wires to the transmitters and receivers
>>> used
>>> by the entrant.
>>>
>>> One rule for the rich, and one for the rest of us!
>>>
>>> Danny, G3XVR
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
>>> [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tom GM4FDM
>>> Sent: 30 May 2011 16:01
>>> To: uk-contest at contesting.com
>>> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] cqwwwpx
>>>
>>> Isnt there a 500m rule for antennas?
>>>
>>>
>>> Tom
>>> GM4FDM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 30/05/2011 15:25, Bob Henderson wrote:
>>>> The idea is that both stations keep their respective frequencies busy
>>>> by
>>>> interleaving their Qs such that this situation doesn't really arise.
>>>> In a
>>>> multi-op station there will typically be two operators on a band, each
>>> with
>>>> his own transceiver but both interlocked to prevent the 2 x signal
>>>> infringement.  I understand that two operators well practised in this
>>>> particular technique can reliably achieve 140% individual run rate.  So
>>> each
>>>> station is doing 70% rate of a top flight operator i.e hitting 100 -
>>>> 150Q/hr.  Essentially when one transmits the other receives and vice
>>> versa.
>>>> Both frequencies stay pretty busy. :-)
>>>>
>>>> This frequency busy but apparently unoccupied phenomena is mostly
>>> associated
>>>> with SO2R stations where a single operator is QRV on two frequencies.
>>>>
>>>> Incidentally, I am aware of four operators each with their own
>>>> transceiver
>>>> and antennas having been deployed on a single band.  Two running
>>> interleaved
>>>> piles and two sweeping for mults.  Only one carrier transmitted at any
>>>> one
>>>> time to keep inside the rules of course.
>>>>
>>>> Terrain is key to this kind of game, as each stations antennas should
>>>> be
>>> out
>>>> of sight of the others on the same band.  Lots of dosh helps too.
>>>>
>>>> Bob, 5B4AGN
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 30 May 2011 13:22, Rob
>>> Harrison<robharrison at g8hgn.freeserve.co.uk>wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> First off let me say I don't operate on HF. But I understand what is
>>> going
>>>>> on technically.
>>>>>
>>>>> However what happens when another station finds what he thinks is a
>>>>> clear
>>>>> freaquency only to be told the frequency is occupied by the said
>>>>> station
>>> who
>>>>> is actually on a different frequency, .i.e. how does the said station
>>> keep
>>>>> two active frequencies when only transmitting on one, and if he does,
>>>>> doesn't that infringe the rules?
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob G8HGN
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob
>>>>> Henderson"<bob.5b4agn at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "Callum McC"<callum at mccormick.uk.com>
>>>>> Cc: "UK Contest Reflector"<uk-contest at contesting.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 1:46 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] cqwwwpx
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Exactly Callum.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The sponsors are the arbiters and so far they've considered it to be
>>>>>> within
>>>>>> the rules.  BUT as G3SXW suggests; things may be about to change.  At
>>>>>> least
>>>>>> wrt CQWW.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob, 5B4AGN
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 30 May 2011 12:24, Callum McC<callum at mccormick.uk.com>    wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     >>>    Whether it was within the spirit of the contest or not
>>>>>>> The rules of the game are to win, within the rules. That's the
>>>>>>> spirit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are either within the rules - or not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> C.
>>>>>>>
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