[UK-CONTEST] Bob G1SMI
Chris Parnell
chris-g0hfx at hotmail.co.uk
Thu Apr 5 13:38:07 PDT 2012
He was always one of the regular IO83 stations I was happy to work and get 250 + points for
Will be sorely missed--condolences to his family & friends
Chris G0HFX from IO80WX
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> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 14:09:38 +0000
> From: Christopher Plummer <plummerc42 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] UK-Contest Digest, Vol 112, Issue 3
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> Guys,
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> Yes a great loss to VHF, only last Tuesday I was wondering whe he had got to as he was one of my regular contacts in UKAC events. Condolencies to his family.
>
> Chris G8APB
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> > From: john at carltonhouse.eclipse.co.uk
> > To: g8xvj at btinternet.com; uk-contest at contesting.com
> > Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 10:17:52 +0100
> > Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] UK-Contest Digest, Vol 112, Issue 3
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> > That's sad and unexpected .... he is in my log just a few weeks ago.
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> > John G4ZTR
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> > [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of ERIK GEDVILAS
> > Sent: 05 April 2012 09:58
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> > Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] UK-Contest Digest, Vol 112, Issue 3
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> > G1SMI . Very keen VHF. just had a phone call that BOB sadly
> > died at 5.15 am this morning in Southport and Ormskirk Hospital.
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> > 1. CQWW (Mark Haynes)
> > 2. Re: 50MHz UKAC Results (Roger Dixon)
> > 3. Portable Generators.... (robert rushbrooke)
> > 4. Re: Portable Generators.... (Robert Chipperfield)
> > 5. Chinese Heliax look alike (Peter Burden)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 22:26:21 +0100 (BST)
> > From: Mark Haynes <mark.haynes at yahoo.co.uk>
> > Subject: [UK-CONTEST] CQWW
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> > Dear UK-Contest,
> > ?
> > I wonder if?anyone can help me. I'm keen?to operate in this years CQWW
> > (pref. CW) from EA6/EA8/9H/5B4 or similar. Can anyone help? Perhaps you have
> > a contact in one of these DXCCs that could host me.
> > ?
> > Please let me know by replying off list direct.
> > ?
> > Thank you.
> > ?
> > 73,
> > Mark M0DXR
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 13:27:49 +0100
> > From: "Roger Dixon" <lists at irdixon.plus.com>
> > Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] 50MHz UKAC Results
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> > The results of the March 2012 6m UKAC are now on the Contest Committee
> > website at:
> >
> > http://www.rsgbcc.org/cgi-bin//vhfresults.pl?Contest=50MHz%20UKAC
> > <http://www.rsgbcc.org/cgi-bin/vhfresults.pl?Contest=50MHz%20UKAC>
> > <http://www.rsgbcc.org/cgi-bin/vhfresults.pl?Contest=50MHz%20UKAC
> > <http://www.rsgbcc.org/cgi-bin/vhfresults.pl?Contest=50MHz%20UKAC&year=2012>
> > &year=2012>
> > &year=2012
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> > The April 50MHz UKAC takes place at 2000 local time on Tuesday 24th April
> > 2012.
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> > 73
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> > Roger - G4BVY
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> > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 17:54:00 +0100 (BST)
> > From: robert rushbrooke <rrushbrooke at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [UK-CONTEST] Portable Generators....
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> > Slightly off topic but?I would be interested to hear what portable contest
> > stations are using in the way of generators and what equipment?it powers.
> > ?
> > My club runs a single radio, Acom 1000 and a couple of laptops.
> > ?
> > ?
> > Regards,
> > ?
> > Bob - 2E0KLO
> > ?
> > rrushbrooke at yahoo.com
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 18:13:01 +0100
> > From: Robert Chipperfield <robert at syxis.co.uk>
> > Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Portable Generators....
> > To: robert rushbrooke <rrushbrooke at yahoo.com>
> > Cc: "uk-contest at contesting.com" <uk-contest at contesting.com>
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> > Hi Bob,
> >
> > We use a Kipor IG2600. It's a blatent cheap knock-off of the Honda
> > range, but it does very well.
> >
> > It's an inverter generator, which for those not familiar, means it has a
> > multi-phase alternator generating DC at some indeterminate voltage (I
> > seem to recall ~50V), and then a 230V sine-wave inverter.
> >
> > First, the good bits:
> >
> > Because output frequency is independent of engine speed, idling speed is
> > much lower at low load, and with it noise and fuel consumption. 8 hours
> > from a 4L tank of fuel is quite normal when not running a linear (but
> > including lighting, computers, radio and so on, so probably ~400W)
> >
> > Similarly, voltage regulation is *perfect*: running a Quadra linear at
> > 400W on 6m on VHF NFD, at the end of 40m of power cable, we observed
> > less than 2V variation in supply voltage to the linear. Compare that to
> > the traditional generator we used which was exhibiting 40V swings as it
> > struggled with the varying load. This means no need to "load up" the
> > generator with flood lights or similar.
> >
> > Power to weight ratio is excellent - you can lift it with one hand,
> > whereas the traditional generator we used previously was a two person move.
> >
> > Now, the bad bit: as supplied, it's RF noisy on HF. We first realised
> > this in 2011's CW AFS, and had to struggle through S9 QRM as a result.
> >
> > However, a GM3SEK choke (or better, two - low and mid band designs in
> > series) immediately on the output of the generator worked absolute
> > wonders - it's now S0-S2, depending on the band. We could probably do
> > better if we experimented further, but that was declared "problem solved".
> >
> > We also use a 1kVA Honda inverter, and that's RF silent, so no doubt
> > there is an aspect of "get what you pay for", but we couldn't justify
> > the doubling in price.
> >
> > In terms of running linears, we happily ran a 400W 70cm amp and Quadra
> > on 6m from the same generator in VHF NFD last year, and a 400W 2m and
> > 100W 23cm amp from an identical second generator. Neither of them
> > blinked all weekend, unlike the traditional one, which still couldn't be
> > coaxed into life despite numerous strip-downs of the carb:
> >
> > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/dnas2/5898168394/in/photostream> (evil
> > thing in the foreground, two Kipors and Honda in the background, photo
> > credit M0BLF)
> >
> > Hope that's helpful!
> >
> > 73,
> > Rob, M0VFC
> >
> > On 04/04/2012 17:54, robert rushbrooke wrote:
> > > Slightly off topic but I would be interested to hear what portable contest
> > stations are using in the way of generators and what equipment it powers.
> > >
> > > My club runs a single radio, Acom 1000 and a couple of laptops.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Bob - 2E0KLO
> > >
> > > rrushbrooke at yahoo.com
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> > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 18:24:31 +0100
> > From: Peter Burden <peter.burden at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [UK-CONTEST] Chinese Heliax look alike
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> > Does anybody know anything about Hengxin cables? UK suppliers, price and
> > connector availability would be of obvious interest.
> >
> > See http://www.hengxin.com/product_detail_e.php?id=25
> > <http://www.hengxin.com/product_detail_e.php?id=25&type=0> &type=0
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> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 14:19:03 -0000
> From: "Clive GM3POI" <gm3poi2 at btinternet.com>
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Portable Generators....
> To: "'M0RXX'" <stuart at m0rxx.me.uk>
> Cc: 'David' <g3yyd at btinternet.com>, "'UK-Contest at contesting. com'"
> <UK-Contest at contesting.com>, 'Derek Thom' <g3nks at blueyonder.co.uk>
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> I didn't mean electrically in series, it was just a term to say they are
> ganged up together to get twice the O/P. Besides you buy a special cable to
> do it with prewired. 73 Clive GM3POI
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: M0RXX [mailto:stuart at m0rxx.me.uk]
> Sent: 05 April 2012 12:47
> To: Clive GM3POI
> Cc: Derek Thom; David; UK-Contest at contesting. com
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Portable Generators....
>
> Clive
> The gennies may be paralleled but NOT in series. If you do the voltage will
> be 500 volts plus depending on the phase relationship.
>
> Stuart Southern.
>
> Radio Amateur. M0RXX
> First Aid Saves Lives.
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> Think - If a Cardiac Arrest happened where you are now - where would the
> nearest AED be?
>
> AEDs save lives..."The Resuscitation Council (UK) strongly recommends the
> implementation of early defibrillation. Increased provision of early
> defibrillation through the widespread deployment of AEDs is now considered a
> realistic strategy for reducing mortality from cardiac arrest due to
> ischaemic heart disease."
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On 5 Apr 2012, at 10:52, "Clive GM3POI" <gm3poi2 at btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > Derek, Those smaller Honda inverter type generators can be fed in series,
> > with a link between them, hence getting higher output. I don't think you
> can
> > do it with the 6.5KVA Honda's. 73 Clive GM3POI
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> > [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Derek Thom
> > Sent: 05 April 2012 06:59
> > To: David; UK-Contest at contesting. com
> > Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Portable Generators....
> >
> > David,
> >
> > Could you please expand on the phrase "We used 2 Honda 2KW inverter
> > generators ganged together with an
> > optional cable."? I'm not sure exactly what you meant. Thanks.
> >
> > 73, Derek G3NKS
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David" <g3yyd at btinternet.com>
> > To: "UK-Contest at contesting. com" <UK-Contest at contesting.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Portable Generators....
> >
> >
> > We, VARC, had an identical radio set up to your proposals for a 160m
> contest
> > last year. We used 2 Honda 2KW inverter generators ganged together with an
> > optional cable. One of them we ran in eco mode (very mean on fuel burn)
> > while the other we ran in normal mode. We found this worked very well and
> > allowed us to turn off one generator when refuelling while carrying on
> with
> > the linear in standby. Most of the time UK outside air temperature is
> above
> > the flash point of petrol. I would never refuel a generator with it
> running
> > as the risk of a flash fire or even a fuel/air explosion makes turning off
> > the wise thing to do.
> >
> > If you want to refuel without switching off get a diesel generator.
> >
> > The Hondas are expensive generators but the club has one and a member has
> > one hence the ability to gang two of them together. Also using 2 meant if
> > one failed we could carry on contesting without the amplifier.
> >
> > 73 David G3YYD
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> > [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of robert rushbrooke
> > Sent: 04 April 2012 16:54
> > To: uk-contest at contesting.com
> > Subject: [UK-CONTEST] Portable Generators....
> >
> > Slightly off topic but I would be interested to hear what portable contest
> > stations are using in the way of generators and what equipment it powers.
> >
> > My club runs a single radio, Acom 1000 and a couple of laptops.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Bob - 2E0KLO
> >
> > rrushbrooke at yahoo.com
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> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 17:15:21 +0100
> From: Steve Thompson <g8gsq72 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Portable Generators....
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> Basic gennys derive their field supply crudely from the output,
> expecting a resistive(ish) load such as lighting or motors. A big
> capacitor input PSU gulps hefty spikes of current just when the
> field can't support it so the output croaks.
>
> If you modify the field to run from a dc supply, with feedback to
> keep the output volts constant (average over a few cycles) the
> performance is transformed.
>
> Steve
>
>
> GM3WOJ:
> > Hi Bob et al
> >
> > Just my 50p worth of comments on this interesting topic. I have a
> > conventional 2.6kVA pertrol generator, with only a crude 'mechanical
> > feedback' system of regulation on the Briggs and Stratton engine. It works
> > well, but is only capable of powering a single radio and valve amp to about
> > 500W o/p.
>
>
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