[UK-CONTEST] UBN errors

Stewart GM4AFF stewart at gm4aff.net
Fri Mar 2 09:56:58 PST 2012


Same as WinTest. As I said last year, I don't agree that the receiver should
lose points for a transmitted error, however it's caused.

Stewart
GM4AFF

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From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Clive GM3POI
Sent: 02 March 2012 13:44
To: 'Christopher Plummer'; g3yyd at btinternet.com; uk-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] UBN errors

You only need to type one letter in N1MM callsign field for it to display
the correct outgoing serial number. Without that single letter the programme
does not know that you are not trying to complete your previous QSO.  73
Clive GM3POI

 

From: Christopher Plummer [mailto:plummerc42 at hotmail.com]
Sent: 02 March 2012 12:16
To: gm3poi2 at btinternet.com; g3yyd at btinternet.com; uk-contest at contesting.com
Subject: RE: [UK-CONTEST] UBN errors

 

Guys,
 
I use N1MM exclusively for HF logging and I never send a serial number until
all the recieved info is logged in the correct window so can never send the
wrong number, but I too have had several conteacts disallowed where serial
numbers logged differ by one from what the other station has logged and sent
in, so I think it is a general problem with sending from macros or even
sometimes by hand with any of the contest loggers.
 
On VHF I use Minos, but have had similar problems where I think incorrect
serials have been sent even with SSB.
 
I don't know how to check or correct the problem, unless we drop the serial
number requirement and go for district codes for HF or just QRA squares on
VHF.
 
Chris G8APB
 

 

> From: gm3poi2 at btinternet.com
> To: g3yyd at btinternet.com; UK-Contest at contesting.com
> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 11:52:04 +0000
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] UBN errors
> 
> Well David I personally would not send a serial without having at 
> least a single letter in the callsign field for your stated reason. 
> That would be
a
> school boy error surely. A good reason not to use the paddle except 
> for corrections or fills..
> 73 Clive GM3POI
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com 
> [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of David
> Sent: 02 March 2012 10:50
> To: UK-Contest at contesting. com
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] UBN errors
> 
> During the contest I had more than one station correct the sent serial 
> number. How many sent the wrong one without correction is an unknown.
> 
> It is possible with N1MM (I use N1MM never used Wintest) to send the 
> incorrect SN. This is done by sending the SN before filling in the
Callsign
> of the station you are working. N1MM thinks it is repeating the 
> exchange
of
> the last QSO logged. So if you copied one less on the serial number 
> that could be the sending station. I had a couple of these but it may 
> have been me.
> 
> Then there is the hand keyer. He makes a mistake in sending either 
> because his brain has an incorrect serial number or sends it incorrectly.
> 
> N1MM allocates serial numbers when the callsign is entered into the
callsign
> field. If you are doing SO2R or SO2V with two entry windows it is 
> possible to get them out of sequence and or have missing serial 
> numbers. In my experience adjudication software deals with this OK.
> 
> 73 David G3YYD
> 
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