[UK-CONTEST] Short Contest Calls.

Wed Oct 3 05:06:26 EDT 2012

	Well Don I can't see any problem in the system being reviewed and
expanded. The world has now moved on and short calls are with us  every day.
It would just be nice to have the option of using one if I wanted for
example in the SAC or UBA or any of the Russian Contests. 
	Perhaps the idea of vanity calls should be investigated again,
however from a numbers point of view there does not appear to be any
shortage of available callsigns and there will also be turn over.
	It very much appears that just about everything that appears on this
reflector is  immediately viewed in negative terms rather than constructive
discussion.  Or have I got that wrong.?
73 Clive GM3POI

-----Original Message-----
From: UK-Contest [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Don
Field
Sent: 02 October 2012 17:05
To: UK Contest
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Short Contest Calls.

That was then Brian.

But I am puzzled by Clive's posting. As an ex-law enforcement officer,
Clive knows that there must be some sort of framework. Asking for the use
of SCCs for "all contests" is meaningless (and, in any case, this isn't the
place to ask for it). What are "all contests". Does it include US State QSO
Parties? Does it include the FOC Marathon or QSO Parties (which are not
actually billed as contests)? Does it include the GM3POI memorial contest,
which runs all year on all bands (or could)?

So, either it becomes a general vanity call (which, in effect, is what has
happened in Scandinavia and elsewhere) or there has to be some sort of
definition. Which there already is - in the past the question has been
asked "What contests should be on the list". As far as I know, modern-day
OFCOM has never refused any (frankloy, they wouldn't know one from
another). So if Clive wanted, say, the Stew Perry events, the Oceania
contest or whatever, I suspect he only has to ask (the appropriate
person(s)).

The only other consideration is that, I am led to understand (and SJJ may
well recall), that there was a concern about allowing SCCs in domestic HF
events would not go down well with the more casual entrants who didn't
want, or didn't have, SCCs. Whether that argument still applies, who knows?

Don G3XTT

On 2 October 2012 16:56, brian coyne <g4odv at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> It never did make sense to me why the scc's were limited to major contests
>
> I don't recall how the Regulator was named in those days but I do know
> that RSGB had to go cap in hand and tugging at the forelock to ask the
> slightest favour.
>
> Maybe RSGB (HFCC) thought that was the most they dare ask for! Chris (SJJ)
> may know the answer to that one.
>
> 73  Brian 5B4AIZ.
>
>
> > Hi All,
> > It is now 16 years since short calls were first made available. To
> > date 33 individual and a total of about 180 calls have been issued out
of
> > 520 available.
> > Is it not now well overdue  that we now  be allowed to use these
> > callsigns in ANY Contest. Listening on the bands in any smaller contests
> > shows the regular use in other Countries of short calls.
> > I am sure that Ofcom would be open to such a request, and it should
> > be routine for the CC to encourage their use in in Many of  their
> > Contests.
> > I cannot see the point of holding a contest call that you cannot use
> > in any Contest.
> > 73 Clive GM3POI
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