[UK-CONTEST] Short Contest Calls.

[Chris G3SJJ]

A further reply from me as Don's posting went into my BT Yahoo spam folder along with about 5 other contest reflector postings. This seems a regualr 
occurence now!

I support Don's comments about needing a framework, or else they just become vanity calls.

During the original protracted negotiations to get SCCs (it took several years!) we were asked by the LAC to produce a list of suitable events. We 
concentrated on the major international events and excluded domestic contests in case of unfair advantage, which seemed reasonable at that time but 
probably not so relavant now. I know more has been added to the list in the intervening years.

When I left HFCC Justin G4TSH took over as the committee contact but he has also left the committee so I am not sure who is the relevant person now. I 
guess once that is known it would be a matter of individuals submitting a list of their requirements and possibly a short list being drawn up for 
submission to Ofcom. It seems to me that would be the best way to keep track of what is happening rather than individuals randomly contacting Ofcom.

Chris G3SJJ



On 02/10/2012 18:05, Don Field wrote:
> That was then Brian.
>
> But I am puzzled by Clive's posting. As an ex-law enforcement officer,
> Clive knows that there must be some sort of framework. Asking for the use
> of SCCs for "all contests" is meaningless (and, in any case, this isn't the
> place to ask for it). What are "all contests". Does it include US State QSO
> Parties? Does it include the FOC Marathon or QSO Parties (which are not
> actually billed as contests)? Does it include the GM3POI memorial contest,
> which runs all year on all bands (or could)?
>
> So, either it becomes a general vanity call (which, in effect, is what has
> happened in Scandinavia and elsewhere) or there has to be some sort of
> definition. Which there already is - in the past the question has been
> asked "What contests should be on the list". As far as I know, modern-day
> OFCOM has never refused any (frankloy, they wouldn't know one from
> another). So if Clive wanted, say, the Stew Perry events, the Oceania
> contest or whatever, I suspect he only has to ask (the appropriate
> person(s)).
>
> The only other consideration is that, I am led to understand (and SJJ may
> well recall), that there was a concern about allowing SCCs in domestic HF
> events would not go down well with the more casual entrants who didn't
> want, or didn't have, SCCs. Whether that argument still applies, who knows?
>
> Don G3XTT
>
> On 2 October 2012 16:56, brian coyne <g4odv at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> It never did make sense to me why the scc's were limited to major contests
>>
>> I don't recall how the Regulator was named in those days but I do know
>> that RSGB had to go cap in hand and tugging at the forelock to ask the
>> slightest favour.
>>
>> Maybe RSGB (HFCC) thought that was the most they dare ask for! Chris (SJJ)
>> may know the answer to that one.
>>
>> 73  Brian 5B4AIZ.
>>
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>> It is now 16 years since short calls were first made available. To
>>> date 33 individual and a total of about 180 calls have been issued out of
>>> 520 available.
>>> Is it not now well overdue  that we now  be allowed to use these
>>> callsigns in ANY Contest. Listening on the bands in any smaller contests
>>> shows the regular use in other Countries of short calls.
>>> I am sure that Ofcom would be open to such a request, and it should
>>> be routine for the CC to encourage their use in in Many of  their
>>> Contests.
>>> I cannot see the point of holding a contest call that you cannot use
>>> in any Contest.
>>> 73 Clive GM3POI