[UK-CONTEST] Train of thought leading up to ... 144MHz CW

[Tony Collett]

Looking at Davids quoted results I'd be seriously looking at why 70cms
failed so miserably compared to my 2M station.
As has been said, improve your station - part of our self improvement?
Also spare a thought for all the other stations below you in the table year
after year and wonder why they keep turning out -perhaps they do it for fun,
it is only a hobby after all!

No 2M aerials here these days but have fond memories of Marconi contest,
even my poor CW was able to work some good Dx....

73
Tony G4NBS

-----Original Message-----
From: UK-Contest [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of
Rob Harrison
Sent: 10 October 2012 19:27
To: UK-Contest at contesting. com
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Train of thought leading up to ... 144MHz CW


David,

VHF NFD is about distance, you could make twice as many contacts, but if
they don't add up to more than the other guy, you'll be second. It's not
about rate, it very rarely is on VHF. You can't compare it to HF where
generally rate is all, and distance isn't taken into account ever? I think
that's where you're are going wrong.

As for the 144 CW try it out you'll be surprised how far you can work and
with the few UK entrants there'll be compared to Europe, you might even get
a certificate.

73 Bob G8HGN

----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <g3yyd at btinternet.com>
To: "UK-Contest at contesting. com" <UK-Contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Train of thought leading up to ... 144MHz CW


> Tim
>
> Let us put it this way.
>
> On 2m we made the most QSOs and came 2nd. Windmill CG making 336 QSOs to
> VARC 382 and VARC get 10% less points than Windmill. On 70cm we came 11th
> yet Newquay in 4th place made less QSOs. On 6m we came 9th but in QSO
> terms
> we would be 4th. On 70MHz we were 9th and in QSO terms 9th.
>
> The same happened last year. The conclusion is that the current scoring
> system counts against us by about 25%. That is a huge handicap to
> overcome.
> Put simply VARC cannot win this contest. If we cannot win it then we will
> use that huge effort for entering other contests we have a fair chance of
> winning.
>
> As for 2m CW contest (144MHz CW Marconi on 3-4 November), it is a point
> per
> Km contest - enough said? Last year that highest QSO total was 82, i.e.
> 3.41
> QSOs per hour - I can work 4 QSOs in a minute in a big HF contest and top
> CW
> ops can do better than that. I can use my time more profitably. On the
> other
> hand if we could all agree a one hour window for a maximum effort then I
> would come on for that.
>
> 73 David G3YYD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: UK-Contest [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> Tim
> Hugill
> Sent: 10 October 2012 12:25
> To: uk-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: [UK-CONTEST] Train of thought leading up to ... 144MHz CW
>
> David,
>
> Your team came 2nd on 144MHz in NFD and you're quitting ?
> Better than last year's 4th too - well done.
> We realise that you'll suffer from lowish pts-per-QSO on 4m & 6m compared
> to
> groups in GM/GI/GW.
> But if you built the right systems for 70/23cms, you could be really
> competitive on those bands, higher bands which don't do much for the more
> remote groups.
> Then you get lucky with some Es on 6m and your group could really be in a
> winning position, without having to go to the trouble of travelling any
> distance to achieve that.
>
> Anyway, back to my question - who's up for the 2m CW contest next month ?
>
> 73
> Tim G4FJK
>
>
>
> ______________________________________
>
> Steve
>
> Think hard, the majority of stations worked are in UK. The point scoring
> system is based on distance. You are in the centre of all those Gs and
> guess
> what points per QSO is much much lower than someone on the edge of that
> group.  We therefore work a lot more QSOs but get a lot less points per
> QSO.
> The scoring system is working against someone located in the centre of
> activity. QED we cannot win this contest from our current location.
>
> Moving location is not an option so moving contest is unless a different
> scoring system is used. A pint per QSO times square multiplier would
> produce
> from VARC perspective a fairer system.
>
> 73 David G3YYD
>
>
>
>
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