[VHFcontesting] Limited Multi Class

[Donald M. Ross]

I find myself agreeing with Terry on the need to revamp the contest
categories to reflect the current reality.

I agree that we need to relook the categories and also agree that a limited
single op class may be needed.  As a 2m only contester (for the most part),
I do like the new web reporting system that allows me to compare myself
nationally.

I'm not sure that distance scoring will make it any less competitive than it
currently is, again for the reasons that he already lists.  Maybe break the
contest down to within the divisions or even time zones with no "overall"
winner?

Don, NL7CO/EM04

-----Original Message-----
From: vhfcontesting-admin at contesting.com
[mailto:vhfcontesting-admin at contesting.com]On Behalf Of Terry Price
Sent: 01 September 2002 19:27
To: VHFcontesting at contesting.com
Subject: RE: [VHFcontesting] Limited Multi Class

I rarely post to these reflectors but I had to comment on this.

I have done VHF contesting since 1980 as both a multiop and single op. The
last 10 years has been with the Grid Pirates, K8GP. The league is so far out
of it they don't know what century it is. Dan Henderson is the first person
in the contest branch that tries but I'm sure the politics have him
hog-tied. If the league lets him continue, I think he will make it better.

All of the catagories and rules need to be revamped. There should be a
limited single op class for the guy that only has four bands. The point
values should reflect the current technology. 30 years ago when microwave
equipment was all home built from surplus, a points bonus was necessary.
When you can pick up the phone (or computer) and order a 10G transverter
from DEM or SSB, why does this rate a bonus; it's another band and thus gets
extra grids and Q's. With all the rovers out there, why are QSO's with your
own operators in a multiop still legal?

GO TO DISTANCE SCORING, give the guys in the midwest a chance. I started VHF
operating from Cincinnati, Ohio. I know how frustrating it is to scratch for
every Q. I now live in Virginia and now understand why the scores are so
lopsided. I can work more on FM with 25w from here than I could work from
Ohio with 1500w on SSB! I can not even imagine what the folks in the west
must do, with the sparse VHF population.

The league wonders why participation is going down, all they have to do is
look at ANY other form of competition and they will see the governing body
keeps the playing field level. How much fun would it be if Jeff Gordon won
all the NASCAR races or the Dallas Cowboys won all the Super Bowls.

If this reflector is the forum for discussion, then let's have a open,
non-flaming discussion. Everyone has ideas, maybe someone will listen.

Sorry to rant but this one gets me going.

Terry Price,
K8ISK - K8GP Contest Group

-----Original Message-----
From: vhfcontesting-admin at contesting.com
[mailto:vhfcontesting-admin at contesting.com]On Behalf Of Chris Terkla
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 11:07 AM
To: VHFcontesting at contesting.com
Subject: [VHFcontesting] Limited Multi Class


Hi,

I was reviewing some of the submissions and rules for the VHF contests and
noticed that many of us submit logs in the Limited Multi Category as LP, HP,
or some with neither qualifier. I checked with the League and Dan N1ND.  He
said that there was no power classes in the Limited Multi classes because of
participation.

My question to the list is shouldn't there be a Limited Multi HP and LP
category?

It seems to me that it would not be a significant effort for the ARRL with
the new and improved log checking and web based reporting to have the
classes defined.  The last contest, there seemed to be a good number of both
HP and LP entries as well as bunch that were not clarified. The cost to the
league is only the printing of another certificate and  little modification
to the web reporting.  My VHF crew is willing to sponsor a Limited Multi Low
Power plaque for the contest, I am sure that other clubs or individuals may
be inclined to do the same.

My crew has discussed this and feel that there needs to be this delineation
for the power in the limited multi categories.  It is very difficult for LP
entries to seriously compete with HP entries.

Opinions?

If you feel that there should be different power categories for the Limited
Multi entrants, perhaps a quick note to the contesting branch at the ARRL
might help urge them along. And let them know that you or your group might
be willing to sponsor a plaque if you are so inclined.

73 and see you in the contest

Chris N1XS

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