[VHFcontesting] Limited Multi Class

Tue Sep 3 10:35:11 EDT 2002

I am glad that the ARRL is doing everything possible
to encourage sending logs in by taking contest results
out of QST

73s John NE0P

--- "Donald M. Ross" <dross at sirinet.net> wrote:
> I find myself agreeing with Terry on the need to
> revamp the contest
> categories to reflect the current reality.
> 
> I agree that we need to relook the categories and
> also agree that a limited
> single op class may be needed.  As a 2m only
> contester (for the most part),
> I do like the new web reporting system that allows
> me to compare myself
> nationally.
> 
> I'm not sure that distance scoring will make it any
> less competitive than it
> currently is, again for the reasons that he already
> lists.  Maybe break the
> contest down to within the divisions or even time
> zones with no "overall"
> winner?
> 
> Don, NL7CO/EM04
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vhfcontesting-admin at contesting.com
> [mailto:vhfcontesting-admin at contesting.com]On Behalf
> Of Terry Price
> Sent: 01 September 2002 19:27
> To: VHFcontesting at contesting.com
> Subject: RE: [VHFcontesting] Limited Multi Class
> 
> I rarely post to these reflectors but I had to
> comment on this.
> 
> I have done VHF contesting since 1980 as both a
> multiop and single op. The
> last 10 years has been with the Grid Pirates, K8GP.
> The league is so far out
> of it they don't know what century it is. Dan
> Henderson is the first person
> in the contest branch that tries but I'm sure the
> politics have him
> hog-tied. If the league lets him continue, I think
> he will make it better.
> 
> All of the catagories and rules need to be revamped.
> There should be a
> limited single op class for the guy that only has
> four bands. The point
> values should reflect the current technology. 30
> years ago when microwave
> equipment was all home built from surplus, a points
> bonus was necessary.
> When you can pick up the phone (or computer) and
> order a 10G transverter
> from DEM or SSB, why does this rate a bonus; it's
> another band and thus gets
> extra grids and Q's. With all the rovers out there,
> why are QSO's with your
> own operators in a multiop still legal?
> 
> GO TO DISTANCE SCORING, give the guys in the midwest
> a chance. I started VHF
> operating from Cincinnati, Ohio. I know how
> frustrating it is to scratch for
> every Q. I now live in Virginia and now understand
> why the scores are so
> lopsided. I can work more on FM with 25w from here
> than I could work from
> Ohio with 1500w on SSB! I can not even imagine what
> the folks in the west
> must do, with the sparse VHF population.
> 
> The league wonders why participation is going down,
> all they have to do is
> look at ANY other form of competition and they will
> see the governing body
> keeps the playing field level. How much fun would it
> be if Jeff Gordon won
> all the NASCAR races or the Dallas Cowboys won all
> the Super Bowls.
> 
> If this reflector is the forum for discussion, then
> let's have a open,
> non-flaming discussion. Everyone has ideas, maybe
> someone will listen.
> 
> Sorry to rant but this one gets me going.
> 
> Terry Price,
> K8ISK - K8GP Contest Group
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vhfcontesting-admin at contesting.com
> [mailto:vhfcontesting-admin at contesting.com]On Behalf
> Of Chris Terkla
> Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 11:07 AM
> To: VHFcontesting at contesting.com
> Subject: [VHFcontesting] Limited Multi Class
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I was reviewing some of the submissions and rules
> for the VHF contests and
> noticed that many of us submit logs in the Limited
> Multi Category as LP, HP,
> or some with neither qualifier. I checked with the
> League and Dan N1ND.  He
> said that there was no power classes in the Limited
> Multi classes because of
> participation.
> 
> My question to the list is shouldn't there be a
> Limited Multi HP and LP
> category?
> 
> It seems to me that it would not be a significant
> effort for the ARRL with
> the new and improved log checking and web based
> reporting to have the
> classes defined.  The last contest, there seemed to
> be a good number of both
> HP and LP entries as well as bunch that were not
> clarified. The cost to the
> league is only the printing of another certificate
> and  little modification
> to the web reporting.  My VHF crew is willing to
> sponsor a Limited Multi Low
> Power plaque for the contest, I am sure that other
> clubs or individuals may
> be inclined to do the same.
> 
> My crew has discussed this and feel that there needs
> to be this delineation
> for the power in the limited multi categories.  It
> is very difficult for LP
> entries to seriously compete with HP entries.
> 
> Opinions?
> 
> If you feel that there should be different power
> categories for the Limited
> Multi entrants, perhaps a quick note to the
> contesting branch at the ARRL
> might help urge them along. And let them know that
> you or your group might
> be willing to sponsor a plaque if you are so
> inclined.
> 
> 73 and see you in the contest
> 
> Chris N1XS
> 
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