[VHFcontesting] Re: ARRL VHF Contest

[Tim Marek]

My reply is imbedded within the original text below...
Tim
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <w2fca at cs.com>
To: <vhfcontesting at contesting.com>
Cc: <vhf at w6yx.stanford.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Re: ARRL VHF Contest


> > "Tim Marek" <timm at cccomm.net> wrote:
> >How about this idea...
> >Get the league to release the ENTIRE log database file per 
> >contest to those who participate so we can do our own 
> >analysis of activity.

> Frank W2FCA <w2fca at cs.com> Wrote:
> Probably wouldn't happen because of "privacy" issues. 
>There are some who consider that giving away their 
> competative edge.


Privacy issues? This is a public contest and the results 
should be public as well. I want the log to look at activity 
on the bands, track Es openings over a known time period 
and compare the data against known WX data looking for 
possible connections, that kind of thing.


> Also, it might show that K7XXX had 10 bands but only 
> worked W8ZZZ from 12 grids and people would  start 
> yelling about captive rovers and the like.

> And rightfully so! Captive ROVERs are against the entire 
> concept of contesting and should be outlawed. 

> >Or better yet, since THEY already have that file, they could 
> >do the analysis themselves and quit using log submissions as 
> >a excuse to "make a case to quit sponsoring the VHF contests".

> If it takes them six months to get the results, where would they 
> get the time/resources to do more analysis?  
> Frank W2FCA FN22wu


The six months doesnt hold water either. 3 months of that is 
publication lead time. 30 days is waiting for logs to come in. 
30 days to process the logs and 30 days to prepare the results. 
Once that is all done, the master log file is just sitting there, 
all the hard work of compiling it already done. 

It would take me between a couple weeks to a month to 
extrapolate some very meaningful data from that file, and I 
work fulltime at a very demanding job for a defense contractor. 
The league has people on staff who could probably do it in a 
few days of creative database work. The real question is
"Why dont they?" 

73s de Tim - K7XC - DM09ol... sk

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