[VHFcontesting] VHF Contesting: Fixing the Grid Circling

[T. M.]

Bob, (and all)

Your statement (as quoted below my comments) cant be any further from the 
truth if you tried...

I started the "Pack Rover" thread due to comments made online by fellow 
Rovers who were thinking of Abandoning ROVER Operations as the Pack Rover 
teams have such a clearly unfair advantage, so why even bother to invest the 
time, energy, and money needed to put on a good effort.

After thinking about it, I decided to finally say something and propose that 
"Pack Rovers" should be in their own category as it is a simple solution to 
such a highly charged political situation. It lets them do what they do and 
traditional Rovers do what we do. No need to change anything else, not one 
other change is needed, or wanted!

Why do I say "Political"? Just the mention of "Rover contesting" brings out 
the hourds of Rover haters with their rather silly ideas of what a Rover 
should be or be allowed to do.

My hope was to avoid all that BS and make a clear cut case for separating 
the "Packs" from the rest of us. Single Op's dont compete with multi-multi's 
do they?... The same thing applys here, it only makes sense... A "Pack" who 
makes a pitiful THREE PERCENT of their Q's from stations "Other Than 
Themselves" should clearly be placed into their own category. Thats the 
point... Simple...

As to your assumption quoted below... I truly had no idea the ARRL was up to 
such endeavours. I do feel the committee will be flawed if some of us 
Traditional Rovers are not part of the process, which has been the case so 
far. Thinking on it... The League's history of poorly handling the Rover 
issue is one of record, why should I think this latest committee be any 
different?

In the contest results, the League seems to embrace the concept of Pack 
Roving, even celebrating it... Fine.. But put them in their own category!

ROVER is something to be cherished, and protected... not bashed and over 
regulated... I would have worked very few grids on 222 Mhz if it wern't for 
the FB work of several "Traditional Rovers"...

As a long time competitive 4 band Rover who typically travels 18+ grids, 3 
or 4 western states (States grow big out here guys!), and 1500+ miles, I 
think I know a few things about the subject. It is something near and dear 
to me and I cant keep quiet about it any longer...

Look, I know Wayne - N6NB and can admire what he has done. Its not an easy 
nor inexspensive thing he and his crew have put together. I wish them all 
the luck in the world. But its clear to me that the techniques they employ 
should be in their own category.

And for the record... Again... Grid Circling Is NOT And Has NEVER BEEN The 
Problem! It Was A Club Scoring Problem... But we all have hashed that out 
enough for many lifetimes...

Enough said...


73s de Tim - K7XC - DM09ol... sk
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>Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 10:01:25 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Bob Witte K0NR <list at k0nr.com>
>Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] VHF Contesting: Fixing the Grid Circling
>
>"This Pack-roving re-hash was in response to the announcement that the ARRL 
>Board >approved the creation of a VHF/UHF Advisory Committee to deal with 
>VHF/UHF >contesting issues."