[VHFcontesting] VHF Contesting: Fixing the Grid Circling

[Bob Naumann - W5OV]

I think the main issue with this type of operation, which clearly is 
outside of the "intent" of the contest, is that the whole thing could 
be faked quite easily.

They could claim they did all of that stuff (traveling and making qsos) 
without actually doing it, and no one could prove otherwise.

I hate this kind of legalistic hair-spliiting in contests.

73,
Bob W5OV
EM13

(ex N5NJ)


> I believe Tree has outlined one of the major "ethical" concerns 
with "Pack - 
> caravan grid circling rovers" - that it creates a "totally artifcical 
> situation" in the contest. There is no "Radio contest" dependant on 
> propagation, station activity, etc. for them. Unless their equpiment 
or 
> vehicles break down, they are assured of a "sked" and the "conditions 
> supporting the QSO."
> 
> Another "artifical situation" regarding VHF and contesting, in my 
opinion, 
> are the JT-65 eme/FSK-441a modes. "Sure - it requires a lot of 
equipment to 
> do this - not an easy thing to do," same as Tree notes for grid 
circlers. 
> But once you have a JT-65/FSK-441a station set up, the computer makes 
the 
> QSO with another computer (sometimes with a little help from one of 
the 
> Internet chat pages while the op. is paying bills on-line).  No 
propagation, 
> work, or operating skill needed or required.
> 
> - Jon N0JK
> 
> >"In the case of a pack of circling rovers, they are creating a 
totally
> artifical situation where most, if not all, of the activity is 
generated
> by their partners.  Take away the QSOs made by their partners and you
> have a totally insignificant rover score.  They are not significantly
> increasing the overall activity level of the contest (since they tend
> to pick fairly unpopulated places to do their roving).
> 
> >They have worked out a schedule and "dance" to maximize the number of
> grid circles they can work - and to optimize the QSOs with their
> partners.  It is like having schedules all setup for you before the
> contest - and being 100 percent assured that conditions will support
> the QSO.
> 
> >Sure - it requires a lot of equipment to do this - not an easy thing
> to do.  A good operator will also help - as you can make the QSOs
> quicker.  However, I don't think this is a healthy use of the 
capability."
> 
> - Tree N6TR
> 
> 
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Bob Naumann - W5OV