[VHFcontesting] APRS Comment

[Ray J]

i would not think so..

according to the arrl
**

Self-spotting is the practice of announcing your own call and run 
frequency on the spotting network...
which is illegal according to general rules

the dx cluster uses Internet and/or telephone relays..
3.10. The use of non-Amateur Radio means of communication (for example, 
Internet or telephone) to solicit a contact (or contacts) during the 
contest period is not permitted.

and you can never spot yourself in a contest..in any class.. I don't see anything in the vhf rules at all saying you can..and the general rules say you cannot..


 3.14. In contests where spotting nets are permissible, spotting your own station or requesting another station to spot you is not permitted.


I see Duane's gripe about the "FM with an omni" antenna range..
 
I do not see any reason why you cannot use ssb, in  a rover position report system.. (RPRS? lol) the range should be better than fm.. 


Ray J





John Geiger wrote:
> Wouldn't that then put you in the situation of
> spotting yourself, similar to posting yourself on the
> internet cluster.  If you did that, it would move you
> to the multiop category.
>
>
> --- "Rogers, Ron" <RR124640 at ncr.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> Ray, 
>> I don't think he is referring to using APRS for
>> actually making a contest contact. I think he is
>> referring to using APRS to simply report real-time
>> positioning and locations of the rover so you can
>> attempt contact with them on another frequency.
>>  
>> Ron
>> WW8RR
>>  
>>  
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: vhfcontesting-bounces at contesting.com on behalf
>> of Ray J
>> Sent: Thu 3/1/2007 8:16 PM
>> To: vhfcontesting at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] APRS Comment
>>
>>
>>
>> you cannot use regular aprs on 144.390.. because it
>> uses repeaters..
>> (digipeaters)  and internet relays..
>>
>> I don't see how it would be considered illegal to
>> use regular simplex
>> packet using the same software/firmware as regular
>> aprs systems..  
>> minus the active repeaters and the internet..and 
>> not on 144.39
>>
>> its a simple 2 way simplex qso..
>>
>>
>> Ray J
>> W9RAY
>>
>>
>> Dave Agsten wrote:
>>     
>>> Right On Ron,
>>>   
>>>   Also, it would nice if the ARRL & CQ opened
>>>       
>> their eyes and allowed APRS to be used in the
>> VHF/UHF contests. Many, many times while roving I
>> hear stations that don't have their beams pointed in
>> my direction. I call and call with no response or
>> they hear me weakly and don't think to rotate their
>> antennas. It ends up wasting valuable contesting
>> time when, if APRS were allowed, permanent stations
>> would be able to see Rovers, rotate their antennas,
>> and generate more contacts and grids in less time.
>> Also, Rovers could see other Rovers and not operate
>> on top of each other. Rather than going to the same
>> grid, Rovers could choose to activate a different
>> grid based upon knowing where other Rovers were
>> operating from. It's a win win situation. I've never
>> figured out how the use of APRS is much different
>> than knowing where one permanent station is located
>> from another and pointing your antennas accordingly.
>>     
>>>   
>>>   And, as far as "waste" of spectrum is concerned,
>>>       
>> I see more waste from some very high powered,
>> over-driven stations in every VHF/UHF contest.
>>     
>>>   
>>>   73,
>>>   Dave N8AG (ex W4TXS)
>>>
>>>       
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