[VHFcontesting] Contest rules and rovering

[Stephan Andre']

You know, standing up and not hiding under the cover of a
tor site would have lent at least a little credibility to your
statements.

Me, I'm still a relative newcommer to VHF contesting and
am coming to terms with it all.  I'm the cheerleader for
the W8PGW station, and we're still getting equipment
and stuff, and learning to be better operators.  I daresay
there are a lot of other folks like us, out there.

So when I hear flames, I try to seperate the heat from the
data.  I try to get what the person is saying, because as 
with most things in life, the rules here could probably
stand to be improved upon in some way.  Hearing intellient
comments about whats what is useful.  This email does
not meet that standard.  There is a lot of heat here but
precious little light.

Stand up and be counted.  State your thoughts AS YOU
and stop hiding amid the cloak of anonymity, and then
perhaps people will consider what you have to say.  As
it is, I only hear random snarling.

--STeve Andre'
wb8wsf  en82

On Monday 17 September 2007 19:45:33 DL Dave wrote:
> John W1RT,
>
> In regards to a certain multi-op not working you on the microwave bands
> during the last VHF contest, you aren't doing yourself any favors by moving
> back here and saying '"some" New England multi-op station'. Don't be such a
> light- weight. Why don't you come out and say it man? What are you afraid
> of? They might not ever work you in the future? I've been in the same boat
> and denied microwave contacts from them too. It sucks, but let's put blame
> where blame is due.
>
> Now that you are back up here in 1-land, let me clear the names of the
> upstanding New England multi-ops and fill you in (and any other new rovers
> that attempt to come through here) on the New England multi-op station of
> which you so vaguely speak. W2SZ/1 - MGEF, the Mighty Gay Egotistical
> Fu--ers.
>
> First, pre-contest they've already filled their microwave log with a
> schedule that will keep them working their self-deployed rovers all
> weekend, so there just plain isn't any time to work you. Besides, they are
> only capable of looking at these preassigned schedules, pointing their
> antennas where told and listening for the calls written down in front of
> them.
>
> Secondly, MGEF is more a cult than anything else. Those who join in never
> come out and are sworn to secrecy. They have brainwashed their ops with
> these canned responses of which you speak and these newbie and naive KB2's,
> KC2's, N2's, they wrangle out of school just don't know any better and
> believe everything they are fed.  The elders hide behind these op's
> claiming ignorance and in turn avoid blame.
>
> Thirdly, the majority of their microwave equipment is proprietary, with
> their non-standard I/Fs and offsets which in turn preclude you from working
> the mountaintop gays or their rovers.
>
> Plainly put, they have neither the desire nor capability to work you. In
> fact, you are just getting in the way of their weekend script, so get used
> to this type of response they feed you. In short, neither MGEF nor their
> rovers need your microwave contacts, nor will they ever.
>
> Their phcktard leader Dick Frey WA2AAU can be thanked for all of this. Dick
> shouldn't be listed in the Hall of Fame, but more over WA2AAU should be the
> first member of the VHF HALL OF SHAME. He has single handedly done the VHF
> contesting community the biggest disservice ever with his scumbag tactics.
>
> You would think that the ARRL/VUAC would work to warn, eliminate or DQ such
> a phcked up operation such as MGEF, but given that two of the VUAC
> members are part of the MGEF cronies(**) list, I highly doubt it. Expect
> more of the same from MGEF on future roves up here, until someone at the
> ARRL has enough balls to stand up to them and set them straight. Or better
> yet, maybe the ARRL will follow suite as CQ has done and start publishing
> logs and let the entire VHF community see what is truly going on within
> MGEF and make the call for themselves.
>
> As for all the current students of RPI and the real W2SZ, wake up and smell
> the coffee kids. Disassociate yourselves from this operation. Get your
> station callsign back and away from MGEF and prevent any further tarnishing
> of a great educational system and ham club. Don't be bamboozled by a Dick
> and the cronies(**) under his spell, else you too will be sucked down the
> path of darkness.
>
> Finally, I hope the rest of the VHF community sees MGEF's antics don't just
> affect those in the multi-op category, or just those in New England, but
> they affect us all, rovers, single-ops and non-W1's alike.  So stand up and
> say, We're as mad as hell and we aren't going to accept this type of
> behavior and operating practice any more!
>
> John, I hope this was a good lesson for you and that you and Xtof aren't
> discouraged from roving up here in New England in the future. Better luck
> next time!
>
> 73 DL Daave
>
> (**) cronies and MGEF cult followers
> K2MM, K2TR, WA2SPL, K1DH, WA8USA, K1EP, W1SZ, W1VE, N1SV, K2AD, N2BNY,
> WA1ZMS, KA1PRT, WS2B, W1UW, N1SZ, N2XRE, WW2R, N2YCA
>
> View the cult and those of the darkside at http://www.mgef.org/