[VHFcontesting] Post-Contest Grid Square Queries

[Sebastian]

Dave, please don't take this as an accusal, but isn't asking someone  
during the contest to move to another band to make a qso considered to  
be "Use of spotting assistance"?

I guess what I really want to know is the definition of exactly what  
spotting assistance is.

My original question of whether skeds are ok, before AND after a  
contest, has not been addressed.  I'm guessing it's ok, since I heard  
many stations on 6m ask if the other had 2m or 440, etc.  But if it is  
ok, IMHO the definition needs to be made clear.  Don't forget, I'm a  
contest newbie here.

73 de W4AS
Sebastian

On Jun 19, 2008, at 7:08 AM, David Olean wrote:

> Hello Sebastian,
> I made no contacts above 432 this time around in June, but usually  
> can make 50-75 Qs on 1.2 CW and SSB from my location in SW Maine.  
> The way we all do it is to work someone on either six or two and run  
> them up the bands. The six and two ops ask each station worked if  
> they have higher bands and proceed from there.  Single op stations  
> do likewise.
>   Before the limited multi category was established, there was  
> enough random  activity on 1296 so that the guy running that station  
> called CQ periodically, and got answers. There were "activity hours"  
> for each band. The limited multi rules caused a big drop in stations  
> active on 1296. That, combined with computer logging, enabled more  
> efficient running up the higher bands (at least for multi op  
> stations) The result today is that there are almost no random  
> contacts on the bands above 432 here. They are all sent up after  
> working them on a lower frequency.
>
> 73
> Dave K1WHS
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sebastian" <w4as at bellsouth.net>
> To: "VHF Contesting Reflector" <vhfcontesting at contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Post-Contest Grid Square Queries
>
>
>> First, I admit I'm a newbie when it come to contests of any kind.  As
>> I've mentioned before, this was the first contest I have ever
>> seriously participated in.   I didn't go in there planning to win
>> anything, just to have fun and work as many stations as possible.  If
>> I win something, great, if not; I won't be disappointed.  I already
>> got the fun out of it that I wanted.  My 2 meter & 440 rotor wouldn't
>> cooperate so I wasn't able to use those bands.
>>
>> Now on to the purpose of this email:
>>
>> 2.1.3. Use of spotting assistance or nets (operating arrangements
>> involving other individuals, DX-alerting nets, packet, etc) is not
>> permitted.
>>
>> I'm not a lawyer.  I think the above sentence is very clear. No
>> outside assistance or arrangements are to be used to work other
>> stations.
>>
>> My conscience is clear, but I must admit that I didn't dwell on this
>> rule during the contest.  I didn't feel a need to use DX Sherlock, or
>> even the DX clusters, because there was already a lot of activity on
>> the band.  But those stations that claim dozens of contacts on 1.2  
>> GHz
>> and above; you can't expect anyone to believe that those stations  
>> just
>> happened to be on there listening for you.  Now if those contacts  
>> were
>> arranged prior to the contest, does that make them 'legal'?
>>
>>