[VHFcontesting] psyched out

[Ron Hooper]

Hi Paul

Can you help me to understand why you think the work load would increase on
the sponsors for distance scoring?

I didn't think we are actually talking about a new set of rules only the way
the score is compiled for the contacts. Isn't that correct?

I don't know what the scoring results will be since I have never operated a
VHF distance scoring contest. I have operated the Stew Perry challenge on
160 cw and enjoyed it. After operating various HF and VHF contest for 39
years with similar traditional scoring formats, changing to VHF distance
scoring might be fun.

I don't think distance scoring is actually about who is going to be the new
winners when it is all over. However, I can see that working several
stations in a dx grid in an opening will count the same for each contact
using distance scoring, instead of just another point after the initial
contact using grid multipliers. Many contesters are dxers at heart and may
like the idea of getting rewarded with extra points for each dx contact.

Have you operated a distance scoring contest? If so, was it more fun?


Ron W4WA



On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Paul Kiesel <k7cw at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Frank,
>
> You didn't have to take that quote out of context, but it still applies.
> Your other enhancement didn't help you, either.
>
> In an indirect way, I addressed the "situation" in California. But, since
> you decided to broach the subject directly, here is my reply: Nobody is
> breaking any rules. In my opinion, the ARRL is off beat by having a word
> like "intent" in the rules. There should be no interpretation going on.
> Having someone decide whether there is intent or not is ridiculous, in my
> opinion. Apparently, the interpretations arrived at by the group in
> Califonia is different from yours. Beyond that, they won their categories in
> the contest by following the rules and were not disqualified. I told you
> before, that if I had the resources, I would get a crew together myself to
> take Wayne and his bunch on. As you can see, I don't have a problem with
> Wayne and his methods of winning. Ask yourself if you thought that you would
> place first in the US if they didn't. If the answer is yes, then get set up
> to beat them next time. If the answer is no, then you have no beef since you
> are not
>  in the same ARRL division.
>
> As far as the distance scoring thing goes, I'd rather not change. It would
> be change of pace for the competitors but would mean a large increase in
> workload for the sponsors. I think the winners of contests under the present
> set of rules would continue to win under a new set of rules.
>
> Why the HF chick down the street? Wasn't she married to Borat or something?
> ;-)
>
> 73,
> Paul, K7CW
>
> --- On Sun, 2/15/09, frank bechdoldt <k3uhf at hotmail.com> wrote:
> From: frank bechdoldt <k3uhf at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [VHFcontesting] psyched out
> To: vhfcontesting at contesting.com
> Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 6:49 PM
>
>
> A snip from paul, A guy I really do like, becuase he usually makes me
> think.
>
> "A solution for achieving high esteem: If you find that you probably
> won't win, Drop back and consider just having fun by competing with those
> whom you have similar circumstances, try to improve on previous scores that
> you've made or just have fun in the activity by participating."73,
> Paul, K7CWK7CW
>
> Come on Paul, the group in California has no/few peers becasuse the
> majority of
> rovers honor the intent of the ARRL  rulemakers who put value in the
> contest.
>
> Even if I was to take out my brain and say lunchg box/ grid circling
>  roving in
> the begining class and traditional class was fair it would not be
> sportsmanlike
> or good for the contest as a whole.  The best example is profesional sports
> with
> salary cap. Its done to keep things competive. Would people be interested
> in
> sports if stienbrenner exclusively cloned the best players in baseball
> history
> and the Yankees beat every team for a 100 perent record for the next
> decade?
> People in Boston aLLREADY KNOW HE'S DOING THIS. If the rest of baseball
> said
> it was unethical, would it be wrong for the other teams to address it in a
> political manner?
>
> Count me in to help with distance scoring ARRL sponsered or not. ARRl fixes
> this issue or not.  There needs to be more variety in the VHF bedroom, or
> we
> might have to step out with that HF chick down the street.
>
>
>
>
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