[VHFcontesting] "Handing Out" radio rules/ethics

[Ray J]

But the person that is using the hand held is not competing in the 
contest.. there for does not have to follow any rules..
Rule 3.5 only applies to people operating and submitting a log for that 
contest..

w9Ray

Jim Worsham wrote:
> Nope, I am afraid you can't do that.  See the following from the General
> Rules for All ARRL Contests:
>
> 3.5.A transmitter used to contact one or more stations may not be
> subsequently used under any other call during the contest period, except for
> family stations where more than one call has been issued, and then only if
> the second call sign is used by a different operator. (The intent of this
> rule is to accommodate family members who must share a rig and to prohibit
> manufactured or artificial contacts.)
>
> 73
> Jim, W4KXY
>
> It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart
> you are.  If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong.
> Richard P. Feynman
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vhfcontesting-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:vhfcontesting-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Les Rayburn
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:10 PM
> To: VHF Contesting Reflector
> Subject: [VHFcontesting] "Handing Out" radio rules/ethics
>
> During my first ever rover trip, I was approached by local hams at three of
> the four stops that I made, including one that was pretty remote. In all
> cases, they recognized the loop Yagi's & microwave dishes as being a VHF/UHF
> rover and stopped to observe, ask questions, etc. 
>
> I try never to miss a chance to recruit new VHF operators, so I tried to
> spend some time with each. I always asked if they had a mobile rig or HT
> with them. One did, but no antenna along. The others had no equipment with
> them. (Am I the only ham who things this is just plain wrong?) 
>
> After the contest, I started thinking about the experience. It occurred to
> me that I had a perfectly good Kenwood TH-F6A in the truck that puts out
> five watts on 2, 440, and 222. Would it have been legal and/or ethical to
> simply "hand" them the radio and invite them to participate in the contest
> by working me on the spot? Carrying that logic one step further, what if I
> carried a 900mhz Kenwood HT converted to ham frequencies, or one of those
> new Alinco HT's with 1.2ghz FM? Or even better a Kenwood VX-8R which has 6M,
> 2M, 440, and 222. 
>
> Instead of those hams being somewhat of a handicap (wasting valuable
> operating time answering questions) they could have been points in the
> contest. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has thought of this, so forgive
> me if I'm wasting bandwidth rehashing old ground. 
>
> As always, I appreciate the advice from the masters. 
>
> 73,
>
> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> EM63nf
> 121 Mayfair Park
> Maylene, AL 35114
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