[VHFcontesting] New proposed VHF Contest rules

[k7xc_tx]

Ok... let me get this straight... 

so we make EME Qs less valuable than terrestrial Qs and create a complexity worse than what was done to Rover. 

This is more descriminatory than just ejecting them from the contest !

Am I the only one who sees how disrespectful this is to the EME community? To kick them aside cause this proposal is flawed by not taking them into account from the beginning!. 

And for those wondering,  No I am not currently active on EME, but, I once was back in the days when it was all CW. 

This whole thing threatens to change my favorite events in Amateur Radio to something less than what they are now.

A strange way to promote activity by banning part of it that has been here for decades. 

73s de Tim - K7XC - DM09jh... sk 

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-------- Original message --------
From: Michael Clarson <wv2zow at gmail.com> 
Date:04/15/2016  10:39  (GMT-08:00) 
To: Peter Laws <plaws0 at gmail.com> 
Cc: k7xc_tx <k7xc_tx at yahoo.com>, VHF Contesting <VHFcontesting at contesting.com> 
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] New proposed VHF Contest rules 

Peter: My statement using a grid square on the moon was tongue  in cheek. I keep forgetting the cardinal rule of the internet: Things said in jest will be taken literally, even if followed up with a smiley face.. My point was that on EME, grids 8000 (or more) miles away are just as accessible as neighboring grids with nearly the same effort. vs. terrestrial propagation where you'll never hear that station 8000 miles away on UHF.I suspect the prohibition against EME would be how it would skew distance scoring. It'd be nice if EME could be accomodated without blowing the non EME stations out of the water,. --73, Mike, WV2ZOW

On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Peter Laws <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Michael Clarson <wv2zow at gmail.com> wrote:

> put there because of Distance scoring. With EME, the effort to work a
> station in the next or even in one's own grid is pretty much the same as
> working one 8,000 miles away. Perhaps a maximum distance score per



You're clearly unfamiliar with distance scoring:  The distance is
calculated between your grid and the other stations grid, not the
distance your signal travels, regardless of mode.



The Makrothen contest has been run this way for a long time:
http://home.arcor.de/waldemar.kebsch/The_Makrothen_Contest/The_Makrothen_Contest.html

I agree with another poster that said there needs to be a commonly
agreed upon calculation for calculating distance between two 6-char
grid-locs, though, given that different geodetic systems.  Pick one
and make sure everyone uses the same mathematic algorithm and be done
with it.  Necessary, but not a big deal.


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