[VHFcontesting] Signals on 6M and 2M at the same time??

[Walter Miller, AJ6T]

On the other hand, regarding simultaneous transmissions on different 
bands, this ARRL June VHF Contest rule suggests that it is allowed:

*7.3.*Only one transmitted signal per band (6, 2, 1-1/4, etc) at any 
given time is permitted, regardless of mode; alternating CQs on two or 
more frequencies using the same band and mode is prohibited.

Is there a definitive answer on this issue?   I would prefer to be able 
to transmit simultaneously on multiple bands.  If you are banging away 
on 2m MSK144, why should you have to constrain yourself to only transmit 
on 6m in between the 2m MS TX sequences?

73, Walt, AJ6T (EM64)


On 6/13/2018 8:49 PM, Chet S wrote:
> >From the June rules:
>
> 3.1. Single Operator: ... Only one transmitted signal is permitted at any
> given time; alternating CQs on two or more frequencies using the same band
> and mode is prohibited....
>
> The way I read this:
> Only 1 signal at a time.
> So, alternating (dueling) CQs ok for different bands for example 6 and 2.
> Simultaneous CQs on 6 and 2 or more not ok.
> Alternating CQs for 2 or more different SSB freqs on one band not OK.
> Alternating SSB and FT-8 on one band ok.
>
> 73
> Chet, N8RA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: VHFcontesting <vhfcontesting-bounces at contesting.com> On Behalf Of
> Keith Morehouse
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 8:51 PM
> To: VHFcontesting at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Signals on 6M and 2M at the same time??
>
> Yes, in the ARRL VHF contests, it is legal to have multiple signals on the
> air (at the same time) as long as they are on different bands.  When the
> rules were changed (I think 2 years ago), I was against it and pointed out
> now everyone can be a "multi-op" and that QRM would increase drastically,
> mostly in high population areas.  That doesn't appear to have happened, or
> at least nobody has noticed.
>
> Possibly, that capability is beyond many stations, although I have worked
> MSK144 skeds on 6 & 2 at the same time on the same sequence.  It takes some
> getting used to, but it's not too much different then serious SO2R
> operating.
>
> -W9RM
>
> Keith J Morehouse
> via Moto G
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2018, 6:21 PM Marshall-K5QE <k5qe at k5qe.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi again Alex....I am not sure that I am correct on that.  I would
>> suggest that someone research this carefully and report back to the
>> group.  Since we are a Multi-op, that particular rule does not apply here.
>>
>> 73 Marshall
>>
>> On 6/12/2018 10:33 PM, Alex wrote:
>>> Hi Marshall,
>>>
>>> That's interesting. Thanks for pointing that out.
>>>
>>> I do hope that there is a willingness by the software developers to
>>> consider making changes for operating FT8 on the VHF bands. Signal
>>> reports are mostly meaningless anyway IMHO.
>>>
>>> Contest was good. I hope the same goes for you, too.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> --Alex KR1ST (FN21fk)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 12, 2018, at 9:46 PM, Marshall-K5QE <k5qe at k5qe.com
>>> <mailto:k5qe at k5qe.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>      Hi Alex....I believe that it is now legal to have one signal on 6M
>>>      and another one on 2M.  You just can't have two signals on the
>>>      same band.
>>>
>>>      I hope that you had a good contest....
>>>
>>>      73 Marshall
>>>
>>>      On 6/12/2018 7:32 AM, Alex wrote:
>>>>      I thought it was a lot better than in previous contests. Sure
>>>>      there were some folks not using the contest mode, but I'm just
>>>>      glad they are there at all and I'll switch modes and work them. I
>>>>      can't get upset over it.
>>>>
>>>>      Now, there is something that can be done in the software. Have it
>>>>      check if it's a VHF contest weekend and have it only operate in
>>>>      contest mode on FT8 on the VHF bands on those weekends (or nights
>>>>      for the sprints). :-) Or only have it only operate in contest
>>>>      mode on VHF at all.
>>>>
>>>>      I too ran SO2R with FT8 on 6 on one rig, and with the other radio
>>>>      on two meters looking for contacts, making sure I only had one tx
>>>>      signal at any time.
>>>>
>>>>      73,
>>>>      --Alex KR1ST (FN21fk)
>>>>
>>>>      These kind of gripes remind me of the
>>>>
>>>>      On 2018-06-11 23:08, Joel Harrison wrote:
>>>>>      As a Single Op, my observation is in line with Marshall's.
>>>>>
>>>>>      I ran an SO2R set up on 6 meters with one radio dedicated to
>>>>>      FT-8 on 50.313.
>>>>>
>>>>>      73 Joel W5ZN
>>>>      _