[VHFcontesting] Signals on 6M and 2M at the same time??

[Zack Widup]

A lot of people will beacon on a microwave band while liaising on 144 or
432 (or even 1296). I figured there was nothing wrong with that.

73, Zack W9SZ


On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 9:57 PM, Walter Miller, AJ6T <aj6t at comcast.net>
wrote:

> On the other hand, regarding simultaneous transmissions on different
> bands, this ARRL June VHF Contest rule suggests that it is allowed:
>
> *7.3.*Only one transmitted signal per band (6, 2, 1-1/4, etc) at any given
> time is permitted, regardless of mode; alternating CQs on two or more
> frequencies using the same band and mode is prohibited.
>
> Is there a definitive answer on this issue?   I would prefer to be able to
> transmit simultaneously on multiple bands.  If you are banging away on 2m
> MSK144, why should you have to constrain yourself to only transmit on 6m in
> between the 2m MS TX sequences?
>
> 73, Walt, AJ6T (EM64)
>
>
>
> On 6/13/2018 8:49 PM, Chet S wrote:
>
>> >From the June rules:
>>
>> 3.1. Single Operator: ... Only one transmitted signal is permitted at any
>> given time; alternating CQs on two or more frequencies using the same band
>> and mode is prohibited....
>>
>> The way I read this:
>> Only 1 signal at a time.
>> So, alternating (dueling) CQs ok for different bands for example 6 and 2.
>> Simultaneous CQs on 6 and 2 or more not ok.
>> Alternating CQs for 2 or more different SSB freqs on one band not OK.
>> Alternating SSB and FT-8 on one band ok.
>>
>> 73
>> Chet, N8RA
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: VHFcontesting <vhfcontesting-bounces at contesting.com> On Behalf Of
>> Keith Morehouse
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 8:51 PM
>> To: VHFcontesting at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Signals on 6M and 2M at the same time??
>>
>> Yes, in the ARRL VHF contests, it is legal to have multiple signals on the
>> air (at the same time) as long as they are on different bands.  When the
>> rules were changed (I think 2 years ago), I was against it and pointed out
>> now everyone can be a "multi-op" and that QRM would increase drastically,
>> mostly in high population areas.  That doesn't appear to have happened, or
>> at least nobody has noticed.
>>
>> Possibly, that capability is beyond many stations, although I have worked
>> MSK144 skeds on 6 & 2 at the same time on the same sequence.  It takes
>> some
>> getting used to, but it's not too much different then serious SO2R
>> operating.
>>
>> -W9RM
>>
>> Keith J Morehouse
>> via Moto G
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2018, 6:21 PM Marshall-K5QE <k5qe at k5qe.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi again Alex....I am not sure that I am correct on that.  I would
>>> suggest that someone research this carefully and report back to the
>>> group.  Since we are a Multi-op, that particular rule does not apply
>>> here.
>>>
>>> 73 Marshall
>>>
>>> On 6/12/2018 10:33 PM, Alex wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Marshall,
>>>>
>>>> That's interesting. Thanks for pointing that out.
>>>>
>>>> I do hope that there is a willingness by the software developers to
>>>> consider making changes for operating FT8 on the VHF bands. Signal
>>>> reports are mostly meaningless anyway IMHO.
>>>>
>>>> Contest was good. I hope the same goes for you, too.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> --Alex KR1ST (FN21fk)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 12, 2018, at 9:46 PM, Marshall-K5QE <k5qe at k5qe.com
>>>> <mailto:k5qe at k5qe.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>      Hi Alex....I believe that it is now legal to have one signal on 6M
>>>>      and another one on 2M.  You just can't have two signals on the
>>>>      same band.
>>>>
>>>>      I hope that you had a good contest....
>>>>
>>>>      73 Marshall
>>>>
>>>>      On 6/12/2018 7:32 AM, Alex wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>      I thought it was a lot better than in previous contests. Sure
>>>>>      there were some folks not using the contest mode, but I'm just
>>>>>      glad they are there at all and I'll switch modes and work them. I
>>>>>      can't get upset over it.
>>>>>
>>>>>      Now, there is something that can be done in the software. Have it
>>>>>      check if it's a VHF contest weekend and have it only operate in
>>>>>      contest mode on FT8 on the VHF bands on those weekends (or nights
>>>>>      for the sprints). :-) Or only have it only operate in contest
>>>>>      mode on VHF at all.
>>>>>
>>>>>      I too ran SO2R with FT8 on 6 on one rig, and with the other radio
>>>>>      on two meters looking for contacts, making sure I only had one tx
>>>>>      signal at any time.
>>>>>
>>>>>      73,
>>>>>      --Alex KR1ST (FN21fk)
>>>>>
>>>>>      These kind of gripes remind me of the
>>>>>
>>>>>      On 2018-06-11 23:08, Joel Harrison wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>      As a Single Op, my observation is in line with Marshall's.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      I ran an SO2R set up on 6 meters with one radio dedicated to
>>>>>>      FT-8 on 50.313.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      73 Joel W5ZN
>>>>>>
>>>>>      _
>>>>>
>>>>
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