[VHFcontesting] FT4 Mode

[Scott Armstrong]

Maybe I should have said    "Back in the day...."  ;-P


On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 1:45 PM Jay RM <w9rm at calmesapartners.com> wrote:

> ..of course, another possibility that one can't get a run going on SSB
> is..... wait for it.
>
> Everyone is on 50.313
>
> -W9RM
>
> Keith Morehouse
> via MotoG
>
> On Thu, May 2, 2019, 12:41 PM Scott Armstrong <aa5am at vntx.net> wrote:
>
> > The short answer...  yes.
> >
> > I always go LP (100w) in most of the VHF contests because I can't compete
> > with the guy down the road that has the KW and stacked beams.  I find it
> > true lots of times when trying to work a run station that I end up
> waiting
> > in line to work the guy.
> > Usually because propagation is favoring some other area or has his beam
> > pointing somewhere else.
> >
> > The flip side of that coin is also true.... If I try to get a run going ,
> > it is usually short lived and can't be sustained so find myself calling
> > endless CQs with no replies.   All this chews up the QSO rate.
> >
> > -Scott AA5AM
> >
> > -Scott AA5AM
> >
> > On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 1:29 PM Jay RM <w9rm at calmesapartners.com> wrote:
> >
> >> This is a interesting thought and one that I hadn't considered.  Do
> others
> >> see this when trying to answer a running station ?
> >>
> >> When I'm running a pileup, I work them until there is nobody left.  I
> know
> >> some have to call a couple of times and a small minority give up
> (usually
> >> right before there is total silence on the freq and they could have been
> >> heard Q5 - but I understand the rate thing very well), but 99% of the
> >> time,
> >> if you call me and I'm stronger then S1, I'll work you pretty quick.
> >>
> >> -W9RM
> >>
> >> Keith J Morehouse
> >> Managing Partner
> >> Calmesa Partners G.P.
> >> Olathe, CO
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 12:20 PM Michael Clarson <wv2zow at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Jay: The argument that SSB is so much faster than FT8/4 and stations
> >> > should switch to SSB when the band is open is not universally true. It
> >> is
> >> > if you are the station running guys on a specific frequency, but NOT
> if
> >> you
> >> > are one of the poorer equipped calling the running station.  When
> >> running
> >> > low power, it will often take 10 or more minutes to work a station on
> >> SSB
> >> > when the band is open -- I am competing with many stations with better
> >> > signals than me. But, on FT8/4, everyone gets decoded, and my rate
> >> actually
> >> > goes up. --Mike, WV2ZOWcom/mailman/listinfo/vhfcontesting
> >> > <http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/vhfcontesting>
> >> >
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