[VHFcontesting] FT4 Mode

[Jay RM]

..of course, another possibility that one can't get a run going on SSB
is..... wait for it.

Everyone is on 50.313

-W9RM

Keith Morehouse
via MotoG

On Thu, May 2, 2019, 12:41 PM Scott Armstrong <aa5am at vntx.net> wrote:

> The short answer...  yes.
>
> I always go LP (100w) in most of the VHF contests because I can't compete
> with the guy down the road that has the KW and stacked beams.  I find it
> true lots of times when trying to work a run station that I end up waiting
> in line to work the guy.
> Usually because propagation is favoring some other area or has his beam
> pointing somewhere else.
>
> The flip side of that coin is also true.... If I try to get a run going ,
> it is usually short lived and can't be sustained so find myself calling
> endless CQs with no replies.   All this chews up the QSO rate.
>
> -Scott AA5AM
>
> -Scott AA5AM
>
> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 1:29 PM Jay RM <w9rm at calmesapartners.com> wrote:
>
>> This is a interesting thought and one that I hadn't considered.  Do others
>> see this when trying to answer a running station ?
>>
>> When I'm running a pileup, I work them until there is nobody left.  I know
>> some have to call a couple of times and a small minority give up (usually
>> right before there is total silence on the freq and they could have been
>> heard Q5 - but I understand the rate thing very well), but 99% of the
>> time,
>> if you call me and I'm stronger then S1, I'll work you pretty quick.
>>
>> -W9RM
>>
>> Keith J Morehouse
>> Managing Partner
>> Calmesa Partners G.P.
>> Olathe, CO
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 12:20 PM Michael Clarson <wv2zow at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Jay: The argument that SSB is so much faster than FT8/4 and stations
>> > should switch to SSB when the band is open is not universally true. It
>> is
>> > if you are the station running guys on a specific frequency, but NOT if
>> you
>> > are one of the poorer equipped calling the running station.  When
>> running
>> > low power, it will often take 10 or more minutes to work a station on
>> SSB
>> > when the band is open -- I am competing with many stations with better
>> > signals than me. But, on FT8/4, everyone gets decoded, and my rate
>> actually
>> > goes up. --Mike, WV2ZOWcom/mailman/listinfo/vhfcontesting
>> > <http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/vhfcontesting>
>> >
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