[VHFcontesting] [VHF] FW: [Trouble Ticket #281] NA VHF Rover Stations Listed as EU in ADI File for ARRLVHF Contests

Sun Apr 26 18:48:28 EDT 2020

I have a totally upgraded K3 and a ME2T-PRO-II transverter, an LNA at the
antenna with a separate RX line back to the transverter and a Gemini 2 1.2K
amp.
Does anyone have something similar in setup that could give me a hand. I
have no RX and no TX but do have TX Led's lighting on all pieces and ALC
during TX on the K3. I disconnect the antenna and hear no difference in
signal and when I key I have no output on the transverter or the amp..
Trying to get answers from the manufacturers but nothing so far.
Thank you !
Randy N1KWF

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 4:21 PM John Young via VHFcontesting <
vhfcontesting at contesting.com> wrote:

>
> I must be easy to impress.  The fact that N1MM covers the FM category and
> separates my PH (SSB) contacts and FM contacts makes my life easy.  I have
> put in two requests, one was politely explained to me as cockpit error (me)
> and the other was corrected.
>
> In any given contest Rovers outnumber FM 10 to 1 if not more.  Hopefully
> your request will fall on more receptive ears and your ticket response was
> a "bad day" outlier fluke.
>
> 73
> John
> KM4KMU
> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 Jay RM <w9rm at calmesapartners.com> wrote:
> That's not too surprising with N1MM - they are pretty HF-centric.
> I've asked for a few additions to the program that would be useful for VHF,
> none were acted on.
> Regardless, it's the logging program that I use.
>
> -W9RM
>
> Keith J Morehouse
> Managing Partner
> Calmesa Partners G.P.
> Olathe, CO
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 1:29 PM Zack Widup <w9sz.zack at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > " Consider IDing with something else." ???
> >
> > Whoever wrote that is obviously not a VHF contester and probably doesn't
> > care about VHF contesting. He hasn't read the rules for VHF contests.
> >
> > 73, Zack W9SZ
> > (occasionally /R)
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 1:47 PM vhfrover--- via VHF <
> vhf at w6yx.stanford.edu
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Did you ever note that an N1MM+ ADI file, generated by using one of the
> > > standard N1MM+ contests (i.e. ARRLVHFJAN, ARRLVHFJUN or ARRLVHFSEP),
> > > reports that Rovers, using the standard “/R” suffix, are logged as
> being
> > in
> > > CONTINENT=EU and not in NA?  Surprised me so I filed a trouble ticket.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The N1MM+ Team states that the R is PREFIX for Russia and I totally
> agree
> > > but every Rover in the USA and Canada (maybe other countries too) use
> the
> > > /R as a SUFFIX.  I believe that in virtually every country except
> Canada
> > > (due to a special 1952 reciprocal agreement), a USA operator operating
> in
> > > Russia would sign with the PREFIX  “R/” followed by HISCALL (Not with
> the
> > > suffix /R).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In any event, I have been told that this VHF issue will not be fixed
> (See
> > > the thread below. I removed the N1MM+ troubleshooter’s call since that
> > team
> > > usually does a wonderful job.).  Anyone know if the CONTINENT attribute
> > > from an ADI file is used by programs like DXLabs or Ham Radio Deluxe
> when
> > > an ADI file is uploaded to those programs?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 73
> > >
> > > Mike WB8BZK
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: N1MM TroubleTicket <Support at hamdocs.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 7:42 AM
> > > To: vhfrover at aol.com
> > > Subject: [Trouble Ticket #281] NA VHF Rover Stations Listed as EU in
> ADI
> > > File for ARRLVHF Contests
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > xxxx wrote:
> > >
> > > Mike,
> > >
> > > The Part 97 rules, section 119.c is clear about the use of self
> assigned
> > > indicator.
> > >
> > > "One or more indicators may be included with the call sign. Each
> > indicator
> > > must be separated
> > > from the call sign by the slant mark (/) or by any suitable word that
> > > denotes the slant mark. If an indicator
> > > is self-assigned, it must be included before, after, or both before and
> > > after, the call sign. No self-assigned
> > > indicator may conflict with any other indicator specified by the FCC
> > Rules
> > > or with any prefix assigned to
> > > another country."
> > >
> > > /R is the prefix for Russia and explains your observation.
> > >
> > > Consider IDing with something else.
> > >
> > > John, xxxx
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/support/trouble-ticket/?support_page=open_ticket
> > > <
> > >
> >
> https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/support/trouble-ticket/?support_page=open_ticket&ticket_id=281&auth_code=ODwgbpEUsq
> > >
> > > &ticket_id=281&auth_code=ODwgbpEUsq
> > >
> > >  _____
> > >
> > > Mike Metroka 2020-04-23 11:40:32(report)
> > >
> > > In VHF contests Rovers are logged with the "/R" suffix.  When using the
> > > ARRLVHFJUN Contest setup, North American Rover stations (i.e. WB8BZK/R)
> > are
> > > listed as "CONTINENT: 2>EU" instead of in NA in the ADI file.  I am not
> > > sure what LoTW does with this continent data but I don't want to
> corrupt
> > my
> > > LoTW data with the incorrect Continent information.  I suspect that
> this
> > > may also a problem for other VHF contest ADI files where Rovers are
> > logged
> > > with the /R suffix.
> > >
> > > I used the ARRLVHFJUN contest setup for the Spring and Fall VHF Sprints
> > > since it generates an appropriate Cabrillo and ADI file for the VHF
> > > Sprints.  Other participants may use the ARRLVHFJAN or ARRLVHFSEP
> setup.
> > >
> > > It appears that N1MM+ interprets the "/R" as a European Russian station
> > > and assigns it the EU continent in the generated ADI file.
> > >
> > > My work around has been to edit each ADI file for VHF contests by
> > changing
> > > the EU to NA before uploading to LoTW.
> > >
> > > Thank you & 73, Mike Metroka WB8BZK
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Example of ADI line for a VHF Rover:
> > >
> > > K9JD/R 20200423 000020 000020 70CM WB8BZK 432.10034 ARRL-VHF-JUN
> > 432.10034
> > > SSB 59 59 WB8BZK EN51 16 1 2 1 EU 1 1 True HAMSHACK 0
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Example of ADI line for a non-Rover:
> > >
> > > K9JD 20200423 000216 000216 70CM WB8BZK 432.11000 ARRL-VHF-JUN
> 432.11000
> > > SSB 59 59 WB8BZK EN52 4 2 2 1 NA 1 1 True HAMSHACK 0
> > >
> > > If you have further queries on this ticket, please respond on-line by
> > > clicking on the link above.
> > >
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> > >
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Randy Lake N1KWF
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Keene,NH