[WriteLog] Networking
Larry Lindblom
w0etc@ix.netcom.com
Mon, 24 Sep 2001 23:27:24 -0000
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For anyone interested, here is the URL to download Zone Alarm (the first =
colum is the free one) http://www.zonelabs.com/zap26_za_grid.html
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From: Andrew J. O'Brien=20
To: Larry Lindblom ; Lloyd Smith ; N3SL@aol.com ; w2up@mindspring.com =
; writelog@contesting.com=20
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 23:13
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Networking
I use Zone Alarm (free version), it does the job well.
Andy KB2EOQ
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Larry Lindblom=20
To: Lloyd Smith ; N3SL@aol.com ; w2up@mindspring.com ; =
writelog@contesting.com=20
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 19:08
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Networking
Even if you are not networked I strongly recommend a "personal =
firewall" program. I'd hate to tell you how many worm attacks Norton =
Personal has stopped in the past 3 weeks. At work we use the free =
version of Zone Alarm. and for a no $ program it does a good job.
73 W0ETC
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Lloyd Smith=20
To: N3SL@aol.com ; w2up@mindspring.com ; writelog@contesting.com=20
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 22:54
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Networking
Barry:
You are 100% correct. Do not use TCP/IP for your local network if =
you are going to use file and printer sharing. If you turn on file and =
printer sharing for TCP/IP, than the outside world will be able to =
access them. Make sure that if you do decide to use TCP/IP, because you =
do not want to share your files or printers, turn off file and print =
sharing.
73' Lloyd
----- Original Message -----=20
From: N3SL@aol.com=20
To: w2up@mindspring.com ; writelog@contesting.com=20
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Networking
In a message dated 09/24/2001 11:58:51 AM Central Daylight Time, =
w2up@mindspring.com writes:=20
I am far from a network guru, but from what I've read, NetBeui =
is=20
safer to use if the computer has an Internet connection. When=20
using TCP/IP, the outside world can see whatever is networked =
via=20
TCP/IP. This is not the case with NetBeui.=20
Barry W2UP=20
Not to belabor the point, but if a computer has an external =
connection, it's already using TCP/IP, so it's moot. As I said, NetBEUI =
is for peer-to-peer (in house, small group) networking. It won't =
connect to the outside world. I personally don't see the need to have =
NetBEUI on a PC as an extra protocol IF TCP/IP is there for some other =
reason - the KISS philosophy. NetBEUI will work just fine on 2 computers =
hooked together via a cross-over cable. But once the outside world is =
brought into the picture, TCP/IP is installed whether you like it or =
not. Besides, no one can "explore" your hard drive unless you're =
connected to an ISP or WAN or whatever. And if your home/ham computer =
contains stuff that sensitive, you need your own firewall program =
anyway.=20
73,=20
Steve=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>For anyone interested, here is the URL =
to download=20
Zone Alarm (the first colum is the free one) <A=20
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<A title=3Dobrienaj@netsync.net =
href=3D"mailto:obrienaj@netsync.net">Andrew J.=20
O'Brien</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dw0etc@ix.netcom.com=20
href=3D"mailto:w0etc@ix.netcom.com">Larry Lindblom</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dnx4w@bellsouth.net href=3D"mailto:nx4w@bellsouth.net">Lloyd =
Smith</A> ; <A=20
title=3DN3SL@aol.com href=3D"mailto:N3SL@aol.com">N3SL@aol.com</A> ; =
<A=20
title=3Dw2up@mindspring.com=20
href=3D"mailto:w2up@mindspring.com">w2up@mindspring.com</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dwritelog@contesting.com=20
href=3D"mailto:writelog@contesting.com">writelog@contesting.com</A> =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 24, =
2001=20
23:13</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [WriteLog] =
Networking</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I use Zone Alarm (free version), it =
does the job=20
well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Andy KB2EOQ</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dw0etc@ix.netcom.com =
href=3D"mailto:w0etc@ix.netcom.com">Larry=20
Lindblom</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dnx4w@bellsouth.net=20
href=3D"mailto:nx4w@bellsouth.net">Lloyd Smith</A> ; <A =
title=3DN3SL@aol.com=20
href=3D"mailto:N3SL@aol.com">N3SL@aol.com</A> ; <A =
title=3Dw2up@mindspring.com=20
href=3D"mailto:w2up@mindspring.com">w2up@mindspring.com</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dwritelog@contesting.com=20
href=3D"mailto:writelog@contesting.com">writelog@contesting.com</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 24, =
2001=20
19:08</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [WriteLog]=20
Networking</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Even if you are not networked I =
strongly=20
recommend a "personal firewall" program. I'd hate to tell you =
how many=20
worm attacks Norton Personal has stopped in the past 3 weeks. =
At work=20
we use the free version of Zone Alarm. and for a no $ program it =
does a good=20
job.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 W0ETC</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dnx4w@bellsouth.net =
href=3D"mailto:nx4w@bellsouth.net">Lloyd=20
Smith</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3DN3SL@aol.com =
href=3D"mailto:N3SL@aol.com">N3SL@aol.com</A> ; <A =
title=3Dw2up@mindspring.com=20
href=3D"mailto:w2up@mindspring.com">w2up@mindspring.com</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dwritelog@contesting.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:writelog@contesting.com">writelog@contesting.com</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 24, =
2001=20
22:54</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [WriteLog]=20
Networking</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Barry:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>You are 100% correct. Do not use TCP/IP =
for your=20
local network if you are going to use file and printer =
sharing. If=20
you turn on file and printer sharing for TCP/IP, than the outside =
world=20
will be able to access them. Make sure that if you do decide =
to use=20
TCP/IP, because you do not want to share your files or printers, =
turn off=20
file and print sharing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>73' Lloyd</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3DN3SL@aol.com =
href=3D"mailto:N3SL@aol.com">N3SL@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dw2up@mindspring.com=20
href=3D"mailto:w2up@mindspring.com">w2up@mindspring.com</A> ; <A =
title=3Dwritelog@contesting.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:writelog@contesting.com">writelog@contesting.com</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September =
24, 2001=20
2:39 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [WriteLog]=20
Networking</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D2>In a =
message=20
dated 09/24/2001 11:58:51 AM Central Daylight Time, <A=20
href=3D"mailto:w2up@mindspring.com">w2up@mindspring.com</A> =
writes:=20
<BR><BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: =
#0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20
TYPE=3D"CITE">I am far from a network guru, but from what I've =
read,=20
NetBeui is <BR>safer to use if the computer has an Internet=20
connection. When <BR>using TCP/IP, the outside world can see =
whatever=20
is networked via <BR>TCP/IP. This is not the case with =
NetBeui.=20
<BR>Barry W2UP <BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 face=3DArial =
color=3D#000000 size=3D3=20
FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#000000 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Not to belabor the =
point, but if=20
a computer has an external connection, it's already using =
TCP/IP, so=20
it's moot. As I said, NetBEUI is for peer-to-peer (in =
house, small=20
group) networking. It won't connect to the outside world. =
I=20
personally don't see the need to have NetBEUI on a PC as an =
extra=20
protocol IF TCP/IP is there for some other reason - the KISS =
philosophy.=20
NetBEUI will work just fine on 2 computers hooked together via a =
cross-over cable. But once the outside world is brought =
into the=20
picture, TCP/IP is installed whether you like it or not. =
Besides,=20
no one can "explore" your hard drive unless you're connected to =
an ISP=20
or WAN or whatever. And if your home/ham computer contains =
stuff=20
that sensitive, you need your own firewall program anyway. =
<BR><BR>73,=20
<BR>Steve</FONT>=20
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