[WriteLog] Cabrillo File & Unclaimed QSO

Fri Oct 2 19:13:42 EDT 2015

Understand, that fits for that example

way I understand "X-"

a X-QSO in the cabrillo file won't count toward your score (ding or add) BUT if the other guy does submit a log, he doesn't get NIL
The log checker can determine what happens in other log's score and key point, the checker has the data from your log to go by
seems the way to go 

NIL is a powerful thing, if the judge holds both logs and there is no QSO in one - in the past NIL, suspect same now.
Did a study on NIL - wrote operators that showed as NIL, this with recording at my station and I could listen to the QSO.  The largest percent of those that replied indicated my call was not in master data base and they changed it to another similar call in the super check partial or deleted the QSO because they thought it was this other callsign that was in the master database.  Those were honest enough to state that however it cost them one Q to do that, but the other guy's score suffered lots more if it was unique multi
One station indicated network problems, and several didn't reply

the checker could listen to the SDR recordings but they are volunteers, time is limited, make it easier on them, X-

in AL9A's example most likely guy isn't submitting a log BUT there are valid examples the X- in cabrillo is needed

73 Robert W5AJ

-----Original Message-----
From: WriteLog [mailto:writelog-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gary AL9A
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 5:35 PM
To: writelog at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Cabrillo File & Unclaimed QSO

Ok, let me make the waters even murkier!  When you mark an entry in WriteLog as unclaimed it shows a little x in the log record.  Any unclaimed entries are not exported to the Cabrillo file, BUT they are exported to a adi file! 
I often do this when I'm called by someone who is not a contester and I cannot get the necessary contest exchange from him.  This usually happens on CW or RTTY.  On SSB I can take the time to walk him through what I need. 
Unfortunately, on CW or RTTY asking for NR?, QTH?, SEC?, OR ST? often goes unanswered.  But, we did exchange RST numbers so it is a valid non-contest QSO.

When this happens I mark the entry as unclaimed so it doesn't go into the Cabrillo report.  However, when I export the log to a adi file and then import that file into my general logger, the unclaimed entry will be imported.  Then if the guy sends me a QSL card, or uploads to either LOTW or eQSL I have a matching record for him and he will get his AK contact confirmed.

If I don't log the call at all I will often get a long email from the guy desperate to get AK on whatever band or mode we worked on, insisting that we did work on the date, time and mode in question.  Much easier to log him so he doesn't count for the contest, but does get into the log for QSL purposes.

73,
Gary AL9A

-----Original Message----- 
From: Kostas SV1DPI
Sent: October 02, 2015 12:46 PM
To: writelog at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Cabrillo File & Unclaimed QSO

I was surprised when I read that writelog removes the marked as
unclaimed qsos. I was believing not. When you are single entry, you want
to see your score, mults, etc in your band only. A trick would be to
mark possible other qsos as unclaimed. Or at least this was what I would
do. During the last rtty contest, while I was in mult station I found
2-3 friends who were not mults and I couldn't work. I worked them to say
hello and give them the mult and marked the qso as unclaimed. Now I can
see that I made a mistake and I have given a NIL to them! Ok it is my
fault that I didn't checked the log before I submit but do you think it
is normal? I mean to remove completely the QSOs?

73 Kostas SV1DPI

On 2/10/2015 11:11 μμ, Randy Thompson K5ZD wrote:
> I was informed that my answer was not clear.
>
> Only the QSOs you make on the single band you are entering will impact 
> your
> score.  Anything you log on other bands is not used in calculating your
> final score for the contest.
>
> Randy K5zd
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: WriteLog [mailto:writelog-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>> Randy Thompson K5ZD
>> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 2:29 PM
>> To: 'Robert W5AJ'; WriteLog at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Cabrillo File & Unclaimed QSO
>>
>> If you enter a single band category, only the QSOs on that band will be
>> counted for your score.  The CQ WW rules do require single band entrants
>> to include all other QSOs made during the contest (on other bands) to
>> help with the checking.  When you don't send those, the station you
>> worked gets a Not-In-Log.
>>
>> Randy
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Robert W5AJ [mailto:woodr90 at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 2:16 PM
>>> To: k5zd at charter.net; WriteLog at contesting.com
>>> Subject: RE: [WriteLog] Cabrillo File & Unclaimed QSO
>>>
>>> Thanks Randy
>>>
>>> On a Single Band entry = for example 40 meter SB but station worked
>>> other bands to pass out QSOs & included in log
>>>
>>> Will the log checking software ignore a busted QSO as far as points on
>>> another band and only "Grade" the SB entry on band entered??
>>>
>>> 73 Robert W5AJ
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Randy Thompson K5ZD [mailto:k5zd at charter.net]
>>> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 6:10 AM
>>> To: 'Robert W5AJ' <woodr90 at gmail.com>; WriteLog at contesting.com
>>> Subject: RE: [WriteLog] Cabrillo File & Unclaimed QSO
>>>
>>> WriteLog does not support marking QSOs with X-QSO.  If you mark the
>>> QSO within WL it is removed from the Cabrillo log completely.
>>>
>>> The way to do it is by using a text editor.  Add "X-" to the beginning
>>> of QSO lines that you do not want to count.  The log checking software
>>> for CQWW and CQWPX will not count the QSO for you, but will give
>>> credit to the other station.
>>>
>>> Since you are trying to not claim the last QSO in your log, is it
>>> because the QSO was made after the contest?  In that case, you may
>>> simply want to remove it since it will not count for your score anyway.
>>>
>>> Randy, K5ZD
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: WriteLog [mailto:writelog-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>>>> Robert W5AJ
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 5:30 AM
>>>> To: WriteLog at contesting.com
>>>> Subject: [WriteLog] Cabrillo File & Unclaimed QSO
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I checked the Cabrillo web page for Cabrillo file version 3.0
>>>> http://wwrof.org/cabrillo/cabrillo-specification-v3/
>>>>
>>>> it notes that if one has a QSO in the log that want "Unclaimed"
>>>> toward score that QSO is marked with "X"
>>>>
>>>> I test marked the last QSO in my log as unclaimed in writelog
>>>>
>>>> exported to Cabrillo
>>>> that QSO is not in the Cabrillo file which would then show as NIL to
>>>> that station if I submitted that Cabrillo which isn't fair to that
>>> station...
>>>> work around??
>>>>
>>>> However,
>>>> rereading the specification, the specification says any qso line
>>>> marked with "X" is ignored by the log checking software, which then
>>>> again the other station gets a NIL??
>>>>
>>>> 73 Robert W5AJ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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