[WriteLog] Cabrillo File & Unclaimed QSO

Mon Oct 5 00:10:45 EDT 2015

The WL behavior is exactly what you would expect a logging program to do.  The X-QSO concept was invented after WL had been designed this way.  Since only CQ WW and WPX support X-QSO, it is not surprising that the software developers haven't spent a lot of time on it.

X-QSO was intended to handle what should be a very rare event... a participant wanting to mark a QSO they made as not counting for their score.  Before X-QSO, the only choice was to completely remove the QSO from the log.

Using a text editor to touch the log is not a difficult thing.

Randy, K5ZD

> -----Original Message-----
> From: WriteLog [mailto:writelog-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gary
> AL9A
> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 10:35 PM
> To: writelog at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Cabrillo File & Unclaimed QSO
> 
> Ok, let me make the waters even murkier!  When you mark an entry in
> WriteLog as unclaimed it shows a little x in the log record.  Any
> unclaimed entries are not exported to the Cabrillo file, BUT they are
> exported to a adi file!
> I often do this when I'm called by someone who is not a contester and I
> cannot get the necessary contest exchange from him.  This usually happens
> on CW or RTTY.  On SSB I can take the time to walk him through what I
> need.
> Unfortunately, on CW or RTTY asking for NR?, QTH?, SEC?, OR ST? often
> goes unanswered.  But, we did exchange RST numbers so it is a valid non-
> contest QSO.
> 
> When this happens I mark the entry as unclaimed so it doesn't go into the
> Cabrillo report.  However, when I export the log to a adi file and then
> import that file into my general logger, the unclaimed entry will be
> imported.  Then if the guy sends me a QSL card, or uploads to either LOTW
> or eQSL I have a matching record for him and he will get his AK contact
> confirmed.
> 
> If I don't log the call at all I will often get a long email from the guy
> desperate to get AK on whatever band or mode we worked on, insisting that
> we did work on the date, time and mode in question.  Much easier to log
> him so he doesn't count for the contest, but does get into the log for
> QSL purposes.
> 
> 73,
> Gary AL9A
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kostas SV1DPI
> Sent: October 02, 2015 12:46 PM
> To: writelog at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Cabrillo File & Unclaimed QSO
> 
> I was surprised when I read that writelog removes the marked as
> unclaimed qsos. I was believing not. When you are single entry, you want
> to see your score, mults, etc in your band only. A trick would be to
> mark possible other qsos as unclaimed. Or at least this was what I would
> do. During the last rtty contest, while I was in mult station I found
> 2-3 friends who were not mults and I couldn't work. I worked them to say
> hello and give them the mult and marked the qso as unclaimed. Now I can
> see that I made a mistake and I have given a NIL to them! Ok it is my
> fault that I didn't checked the log before I submit but do you think it
> is normal? I mean to remove completely the QSOs?
> 
> 73 Kostas SV1DPI
> 
> On 2/10/2015 11:11 μμ, Randy Thompson K5ZD wrote:
> > I was informed that my answer was not clear.
> >
> > Only the QSOs you make on the single band you are entering will impact
> > your
> > score.  Anything you log on other bands is not used in calculating your
> > final score for the contest.
> >
> > Randy K5zd
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: WriteLog [mailto:writelog-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Randy Thompson K5ZD
> >> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 2:29 PM
> >> To: 'Robert W5AJ'; WriteLog at contesting.com
> >> Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Cabrillo File & Unclaimed QSO
> >>
> >> If you enter a single band category, only the QSOs on that band will
> be
> >> counted for your score.  The CQ WW rules do require single band
> entrants
> >> to include all other QSOs made during the contest (on other bands) to
> >> help with the checking.  When you don't send those, the station you
> >> worked gets a Not-In-Log.
> >>
> >> Randy
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Robert W5AJ [mailto:woodr90 at gmail.com]
> >>> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 2:16 PM
> >>> To: k5zd at charter.net; WriteLog at contesting.com
> >>> Subject: RE: [WriteLog] Cabrillo File & Unclaimed QSO
> >>>
> >>> Thanks Randy
> >>>
> >>> On a Single Band entry = for example 40 meter SB but station worked
> >>> other bands to pass out QSOs & included in log
> >>>
> >>> Will the log checking software ignore a busted QSO as far as points
> on
> >>> another band and only "Grade" the SB entry on band entered??
> >>>
> >>> 73 Robert W5AJ
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Randy Thompson K5ZD [mailto:k5zd at charter.net]
> >>> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 6:10 AM
> >>> To: 'Robert W5AJ' <woodr90 at gmail.com>; WriteLog at contesting.com
> >>> Subject: RE: [WriteLog] Cabrillo File & Unclaimed QSO
> >>>
> >>> WriteLog does not support marking QSOs with X-QSO.  If you mark the
> >>> QSO within WL it is removed from the Cabrillo log completely.
> >>>
> >>> The way to do it is by using a text editor.  Add "X-" to the
> beginning
> >>> of QSO lines that you do not want to count.  The log checking
> software
> >>> for CQWW and CQWPX will not count the QSO for you, but will give
> >>> credit to the other station.
> >>>
> >>> Since you are trying to not claim the last QSO in your log, is it
> >>> because the QSO was made after the contest?  In that case, you may
> >>> simply want to remove it since it will not count for your score
> anyway.
> >>>
> >>> Randy, K5ZD
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: WriteLog [mailto:writelog-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> >>>> Robert W5AJ
> >>>> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 5:30 AM
> >>>> To: WriteLog at contesting.com
> >>>> Subject: [WriteLog] Cabrillo File & Unclaimed QSO
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I checked the Cabrillo web page for Cabrillo file version 3.0
> >>>> http://wwrof.org/cabrillo/cabrillo-specification-v3/
> >>>>
> >>>> it notes that if one has a QSO in the log that want "Unclaimed"
> >>>> toward score that QSO is marked with "X"
> >>>>
> >>>> I test marked the last QSO in my log as unclaimed in writelog
> >>>>
> >>>> exported to Cabrillo
> >>>> that QSO is not in the Cabrillo file which would then show as NIL to
> >>>> that station if I submitted that Cabrillo which isn't fair to that
> >>> station...
> >>>> work around??
> >>>>
> >>>> However,
> >>>> rereading the specification, the specification says any qso line
> >>>> marked with "X" is ignored by the log checking software, which then
> >>>> again the other station gets a NIL??
> >>>>
> >>>> 73 Robert W5AJ
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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