[WWYC] Post contest log checking

Rolf T Salme rolf.salme at telia.com
Tue Dec 2 21:49:54 EST 2003


Thanks a lot for your intervention, David and Chris!

73,
Rolf
SM5MX
Not young, but a contester

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chris Hurlbut 
  To: n2nl at n2nl.net ; wwyc at contesting.com 
  Sent: 02 December 2003 21:33
  Subject: Re: [WWYC] Post contest log checking


  Yeah no kidding, that is RIDICULOUS.

  I honestly can't believe people are doing this!!!

  WWYC is above that, don't stoop so low guys.

  -Chris KL9A

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "David Mueller" <n2nl at www.n2nl.net>
  To: <wwyc at contesting.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:19 PM
  Subject: [WWYC] Post contest log checking


  > For anyone considering this, remember, any post-contest log massaging is
  > ILLEGAL and AGAINST THE SPIRIT OF COMPETITION.
  >
  > The contest is to test your operating skill and copying ability during the
  > contest period.  PERIOD.  If you made copying errors during the contest,
  then
  > you should be penalized - according to the rules.  Using something like
  this
  > gives you an unfair advantage over the competition.
  >
  > Lets say I make 1000 QSOs and make 10 busted callsigns.  I do not/will not
  > massage my log.  XX1XXX makes 1000 QSOs and busts 20 callsigns.  He
  massages
  > his log and corrects 15 mistakes after the contest.  In the final results,
  > XX1XXX wins.  I lose.  But he cheated - flat out.
  >
  > Gentleman - the contest period is from 0000z-0000z.  Not in the month
  after
  > the contest before the log is due.  Corrections you make as a result of
  notes
  > generated during the contest are OK.  For example - you have a huge run
  and
  > notice you logged a call wrong - DLF8XX instead of DL8XX.  Make a note and
  > correct that after.  If you notice the mistake after the contest you
  cannot
  > make the change.
  >
  > This software is cheating - flat out.  I hope no one takes up the offer
  for
  > this and I hope the RRDXA stops development.  You guys are WWYC - the
  future
  > of the contest community - and we must remain ethical or contesting will
  > degrade into nothingness.  If it was not cheating, at WRTC the teams would
  > have time to correct their log after the competition.  They don't.  The
  log
  > immedietely must be turned over to the judge.
  >
  > If the WWYC promotes use of this type of software, I no longer wish to
  remain
  > a part of this group.
  >
  > Koen - I am not trying to flame you with this message - but please
  reconsider
  > developing this type of software.  It is flat out cheating.  Hopefully you
  > were not aware of this at the time.
  >
  > 73, Dave N2NL
  >
  >
  >
  > > From:  "on4ccp"  <on4ccp at skynet.be>
  > > To:  <wwyc at contesting.com>
  > > Subject: [WWYC] CQWWDX-CW Post-Contest analysis for WWYC logs
  > > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:09:15 +0100
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  > >
  > > Hi Contesters,
  > >
  > > For those who are interested :
  > >
  > > In collaboration with the RRDXA, I developped software to perform a
  > > Post-Contest analysis.    Your log will be checked against other logs
  and
  > > typing and/or receiving errors will be detected.  This is to avoid
  penalties
  > > by the CQ team.
  > >
  > > Experience learns an improvement of 5% on your total score.
  > >
  > > During the SSB part, I had 108K QSO's in the database.  Now I extend
  this
  > > service to the WWYC.
  > >
  > > Here are the dates :
  > > you can send me your CABRILLO log : deadline 18/11/03
  > > correction : 19/11
  > > I send you personally your result : 20-21/11
  > >
  > > Afterwards, everyone is free to change its log or not and everyone
  is/stays
  > > responable to send the log to CQ.
  > >
  > > 73s Koen, on4ccp
  > >
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