[WWYC] Re: Post contest log checking

[Hrvoje Horvat]

I completly agree with N2NL's message, but I'm not so radical (like quiting 
this group). I dont think this is going on in RRDXA only and we cant stop it 
but I hope young contesters are moral and selfconfident (in what they 
receieve - like DJ1YFK is) enough not to consider this. 

I'm sure WWYC will chose what is right again! 

Trust yourself and nobody else! 

73 de Hrle - 9A6XX 


David Mueller writes: 

> For anyone considering this, remember, any post-contest log massaging is 
> ILLEGAL and AGAINST THE SPIRIT OF COMPETITION. 
> 
> The contest is to test your operating skill and copying ability during the 
> contest period.  PERIOD.  If you made copying errors during the contest, then 
> you should be penalized - according to the rules.  Using something like this 
> gives you an unfair advantage over the competition. 
> 
> Lets say I make 1000 QSOs and make 10 busted callsigns.  I do not/will not 
> massage my log.  XX1XXX makes 1000 QSOs and busts 20 callsigns.  He massages 
> his log and corrects 15 mistakes after the contest.  In the final results, 
> XX1XXX wins.  I lose.  But he cheated - flat out. 
> 
> Gentleman - the contest period is from 0000z-0000z.  Not in the month after 
> the contest before the log is due.  Corrections you make as a result of notes 
> generated during the contest are OK.  For example - you have a huge run and 
> notice you logged a call wrong - DLF8XX instead of DL8XX.  Make a note and 
> correct that after.  If you notice the mistake after the contest you cannot 
> make the change. 
> 
> This software is cheating - flat out.  I hope no one takes up the offer for 
> this and I hope the RRDXA stops development.  You guys are WWYC - the future 
> of the contest community - and we must remain ethical or contesting will 
> degrade into nothingness.  If it was not cheating, at WRTC the teams would 
> have time to correct their log after the competition.  They don't.  The log 
> immedietely must be turned over to the judge. 
> 
> If the WWYC promotes use of this type of software, I no longer wish to remain 
> a part of this group.  
> 
> Koen - I am not trying to flame you with this message - but please reconsider 
> developing this type of software.  It is flat out cheating.  Hopefully you 
> were not aware of this at the time. 
> 
> 73, Dave N2NL 
> 
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> 
>> From:  "on4ccp"  <on4ccp at skynet.be>
>> To:  <wwyc at contesting.com>
>> Subject: [WWYC] CQWWDX-CW Post-Contest analysis for WWYC logs
>> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:09:15 +0100
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>> Hi Contesters, 
>> 
>> For those who are interested : 
>> 
>> In collaboration with the RRDXA, I developped software to perform a
>> Post-Contest analysis.    Your log will be checked against other logs and
>> typing and/or receiving errors will be detected.  This is to avoid penalties
>> by the CQ team. 
>> 
>> Experience learns an improvement of 5% on your total score. 
>> 
>> During the SSB part, I had 108K QSO's in the database.  Now I extend this
>> service to the WWYC. 
>> 
>> Here are the dates :
>> you can send me your CABRILLO log : deadline 18/11/03
>> correction : 19/11
>> I send you personally your result : 20-21/11 
>> 
>> Afterwards, everyone is free to change its log or not and everyone is/stays
>> responable to send the log to CQ. 
>> 
>> 73s Koen, on4ccp 
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