FW: [WWYC] Post contest log checking

Tue Dec 2 15:50:31 EST 2003

Koen,
  Lets say you do run this software, and find that you will lose credit 
because you made an error on a multiplier.  Now that you know, I little voice 
will be saying "make the change - it is only one - no one will notice".  You 
won't have this if you don't know at all - until you receive the report from 
the CQWW/ARRL log checking team.

I'm sure you would not do this, but if this software is developed, someone 
else who has lower morals than you WILL use it.  

73, Dave N2NL/MM

On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:44:38 +0100, on4ccp wrote
> Guys,
> 
> Everybody is free.  There is no change of any log.  You just CAN 
> receive a list with possible errors.  It gives you an idea of your 
> operating skills, like the UBN report.
> 
> If you change afterwards your log, it is you own responsability.
> 
> Just like using <=100W or not within LP (or <=1.5 KW in HP ;-)  ) ...
> Just like using packet or not ...
> Just like using 5W in QRP ...
> 
> I was sending with 200W in the HP category.  Who cares, it was fun 
> and if it is a 100th place or a 1000th, it makes no sense.  But at 
> least I learnt !
> 
> So no more discussion.
> 
> 73s Koen.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwyc-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:wwyc-bounces at contesting.com]On
> Behalf Of Chris Hurlbut
> Sent: Tuesday 02 December 2003 21:34
> To: n2nl at n2nl.net; wwyc at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [WWYC] Post contest log checking
> 
> Yeah no kidding, that is RIDICULOUS.
> 
> I honestly can't believe people are doing this!!!
> 
> WWYC is above that, don't stoop so low guys.
> 
> -Chris KL9A
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Mueller" <n2nl at www.n2nl.net>
> To: <wwyc at contesting.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:19 PM
> Subject: [WWYC] Post contest log checking
> 
> > For anyone considering this, remember, any post-contest log massaging is
> > ILLEGAL and AGAINST THE SPIRIT OF COMPETITION.
> >
> > The contest is to test your operating skill and copying ability during the
> > contest period.  PERIOD.  If you made copying errors during the contest,
> then
> > you should be penalized - according to the rules.  Using something like
> this
> > gives you an unfair advantage over the competition.
> >
> > Lets say I make 1000 QSOs and make 10 busted callsigns.  I do not/will not
> > massage my log.  XX1XXX makes 1000 QSOs and busts 20 callsigns.  He
> massages
> > his log and corrects 15 mistakes after the contest.  In the final results,
> > XX1XXX wins.  I lose.  But he cheated - flat out.
> >
> > Gentleman - the contest period is from 0000z-0000z.  Not in the month
> after
> > the contest before the log is due.  Corrections you make as a result of
> notes
> > generated during the contest are OK.  For example - you have a huge run
> and
> > notice you logged a call wrong - DLF8XX instead of DL8XX.  Make a note and
> > correct that after.  If you notice the mistake after the contest you
> cannot
> > make the change.
> >
> > This software is cheating - flat out.  I hope no one takes up the offer
> for
> > this and I hope the RRDXA stops development.  You guys are WWYC - the
> future
> > of the contest community - and we must remain ethical or contesting will
> > degrade into nothingness.  If it was not cheating, at WRTC the teams would
> > have time to correct their log after the competition.  They don't.  The
> log
> > immedietely must be turned over to the judge.
> >
> > If the WWYC promotes use of this type of software, I no longer wish to
> remain
> > a part of this group.
> >
> > Koen - I am not trying to flame you with this message - but please
> reconsider
> > developing this type of software.  It is flat out cheating.  Hopefully you
> > were not aware of this at the time.
> >
> > 73, Dave N2NL
> >
> >
> >
> > > From:  "on4ccp"  <on4ccp at skynet.be>
> > > To:  <wwyc at contesting.com>
> > > Subject: [WWYC] CQWWDX-CW Post-Contest analysis for WWYC logs
> > > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:09:15 +0100
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> > > Hi Contesters,
> > >
> > > For those who are interested :
> > >
> > > In collaboration with the RRDXA, I developped software to perform a
> > > Post-Contest analysis.    Your log will be checked against other logs
> and
> > > typing and/or receiving errors will be detected.  This is to avoid
> penalties
> > > by the CQ team.
> > >
> > > Experience learns an improvement of 5% on your total score.
> > >
> > > During the SSB part, I had 108K QSO's in the database.  Now I extend
> this
> > > service to the WWYC.
> > >
> > > Here are the dates :
> > > you can send me your CABRILLO log : deadline 18/11/03
> > > correction : 19/11
> > > I send you personally your result : 20-21/11
> > >
> > > Afterwards, everyone is free to change its log or not and everyone
> is/stays
> > > responable to send the log to CQ.
> > >
> > > 73s Koen, on4ccp
> > >
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