[WWYC] Post contest log checking

Chris Hurlbut c_hurlbut at adelphia.net
Tue Dec 2 12:47:25 EST 2003



Your log will be checked against other logs
and typing and/or receiving errors will be detected.  This is to avoid
penalties by the CQ team.



Looks to me like cheating.


----- Original Message -----
From: "on4ccp" <on4ccp at skynet.be>
To: <wwyc at contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:44 PM
Subject: FW: [WWYC] Post contest log checking


>
> Guys,
>
> Everybody is free.  There is no change of any log.  You just CAN receive a
> list with possible errors.  It gives you an idea of your operating skills,
> like the UBN report.
>
> If you change afterwards your log, it is you own responsability.
>
> Just like using <=100W or not within LP (or <=1.5 KW in HP ;-)  ) ...
> Just like using packet or not ...
> Just like using 5W in QRP ...
>
> I was sending with 200W in the HP category.  Who cares, it was fun and if
it
> is a 100th place or a 1000th, it makes no sense.  But at least I learnt !
>
>
> So no more discussion.
>
> 73s Koen.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwyc-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:wwyc-bounces at contesting.com]On
> Behalf Of Chris Hurlbut
> Sent: Tuesday 02 December 2003 21:34
> To: n2nl at n2nl.net; wwyc at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [WWYC] Post contest log checking
>
>
> Yeah no kidding, that is RIDICULOUS.
>
> I honestly can't believe people are doing this!!!
>
> WWYC is above that, don't stoop so low guys.
>
> -Chris KL9A
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Mueller" <n2nl at www.n2nl.net>
> To: <wwyc at contesting.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:19 PM
> Subject: [WWYC] Post contest log checking
>
>
> > For anyone considering this, remember, any post-contest log massaging is
> > ILLEGAL and AGAINST THE SPIRIT OF COMPETITION.
> >
> > The contest is to test your operating skill and copying ability during
the
> > contest period.  PERIOD.  If you made copying errors during the contest,
> then
> > you should be penalized - according to the rules.  Using something like
> this
> > gives you an unfair advantage over the competition.
> >
> > Lets say I make 1000 QSOs and make 10 busted callsigns.  I do not/will
not
> > massage my log.  XX1XXX makes 1000 QSOs and busts 20 callsigns.  He
> massages
> > his log and corrects 15 mistakes after the contest.  In the final
results,
> > XX1XXX wins.  I lose.  But he cheated - flat out.
> >
> > Gentleman - the contest period is from 0000z-0000z.  Not in the month
> after
> > the contest before the log is due.  Corrections you make as a result of
> notes
> > generated during the contest are OK.  For example - you have a huge run
> and
> > notice you logged a call wrong - DLF8XX instead of DL8XX.  Make a note
and
> > correct that after.  If you notice the mistake after the contest you
> cannot
> > make the change.
> >
> > This software is cheating - flat out.  I hope no one takes up the offer
> for
> > this and I hope the RRDXA stops development.  You guys are WWYC - the
> future
> > of the contest community - and we must remain ethical or contesting will
> > degrade into nothingness.  If it was not cheating, at WRTC the teams
would
> > have time to correct their log after the competition.  They don't.  The
> log
> > immedietely must be turned over to the judge.
> >
> > If the WWYC promotes use of this type of software, I no longer wish to
> remain
> > a part of this group.
> >
> > Koen - I am not trying to flame you with this message - but please
> reconsider
> > developing this type of software.  It is flat out cheating.  Hopefully
you
> > were not aware of this at the time.
> >
> > 73, Dave N2NL
> >
> >
> >
> > > From:  "on4ccp"  <on4ccp at skynet.be>
> > > To:  <wwyc at contesting.com>
> > > Subject: [WWYC] CQWWDX-CW Post-Contest analysis for WWYC logs
> > > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:09:15 +0100
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> > >
> > > Hi Contesters,
> > >
> > > For those who are interested :
> > >
> > > In collaboration with the RRDXA, I developped software to perform a
> > > Post-Contest analysis.    Your log will be checked against other logs
> and
> > > typing and/or receiving errors will be detected.  This is to avoid
> penalties
> > > by the CQ team.
> > >
> > > Experience learns an improvement of 5% on your total score.
> > >
> > > During the SSB part, I had 108K QSO's in the database.  Now I extend
> this
> > > service to the WWYC.
> > >
> > > Here are the dates :
> > > you can send me your CABRILLO log : deadline 18/11/03
> > > correction : 19/11
> > > I send you personally your result : 20-21/11
> > >
> > > Afterwards, everyone is free to change its log or not and everyone
> is/stays
> > > responable to send the log to CQ.
> > >
> > > 73s Koen, on4ccp
> > >
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