SV: [WWYC] RE: Recording and language

Mon Aug 23 18:21:18 EDT 2004

Mike have no reason to be embrassed!

if I had been Mike I had been fighting too!

Why didnt 3V8BB asked abt QRL?????

That is normally manner to do..... 

if there is not a special rule for QRG cheaters....

>Forth, if you have a dispute with someone else, do it privately first, 
>you might be able to learn from it and not only embarass yourself...

73 de 
RAG ~ Stein Roar Brobakken Hamradiocallsign: LA6FJA

-----Opprinnelig melding-----
Fra: wwyc-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:wwyc-bounces at contesting.com] På
vegne av SM3WMV Mikael
Sendt: 23. august 2004 15:47
Til: wwyc at contesting.com
Emne: RE: [WWYC] RE: Recording and language

Hello Zoli!

I am totally cooled off. First email I sent out was very cool but I dont

accept people starting to turn the debate around from being about
frequency 
stealing to me using ONE bad word according to the OFs and a word that
most 
guys dont even react to. You mean that 3V8BBs clear lying about he
having 
the frequency is more defendible than me using ONE word that wasnt even
a 
bad word and not offensive to him. If he was trying to steal the freq he

clearely is an ******* but if it was a misstake he isnt an *******.

And even if I was calling endless CQ (which I wasnt, since I had a
120q/h 
rate) that doesnt excuse him, does it? And why have I emberrased myself?

Do you think that when people send out messages about packet cheaters is

wrong aswell?

//Mike (SM3WMV // SM3W)

>From: zoltan.pitman at vodafone.com
>To: sm3wmv at hotmail.com, wwyc at contesting.com
>Subject: RE: [WWYC] RE: Recording and language
>Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 15:21:25 +0200
>
>Gee YM... Cool off a bit Mike...
>
>First of all, I haven't been to 3V8BB and YT1AD has never scratched my
>back.
>
>Second, Mario is right, in some countries you would have lost your 
>license for this language on radio, regardless if you call someone 
>"asshole" explicitly or implicitly.
>
>Third, if you call endless CQs and get no answer (like on your tape), 
>you are dead meat and your freq can be taken.
>
>Forth, if you have a dispute with someone else, do it privately first, 
>you might be able to learn from it and not only embarass yourself...
>
>73,
>
>zoli ha1ag
>
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wwyc-bounces at contesting.com 
> > [mailto:wwyc-bounces at contesting.com]On
> > Behalf Of SM3WMV Mikael
> > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 11:59
> > To: wwyc at contesting.com
> > Subject: [WWYC] RE: Recording and language
> >
> >
> > Hello Mario!
> >
> > Since you apperently think that I am lying in this issue I will 
> > clearify my innocent. And you mentioning that me using a bad 
> > language and I should be
> > QRT for a few month is just insane. "don't be an asshole" is
> > not the same as
> > "you are an asshole", or "you are an arsehole" (ass and
> > arse)... asshole or
> > arsehole really is not bad language, and you said "dont be an
> > asshole" (not
> > even direct abuse at 3V8BB).
> >
> > I will now supply you with both the log, showing my exact frequency 
> > and the slight difference of 1kHz is because of where I have the 
> > RIT. It is funny
> > that you try to throw crap on me instead of being pissed on the real
> > crook...well, friends scratch eachothers back, or? Because I
> > know you are a
> > good friend with YT1AD. I mean, if a friend of mine behaved
> > like that I
> > would actually not protect his behaviour and look stupid
> > myself, I would
> > rather say that what he is doing is stupid.
> >
> >    SEQ     DATE     TIME   FREQ   CALL          SNT RST ZONE
> > P ZM COUNTRY
> >       C PREF
> >
> >    552  2004-07-10 1635    14242 ZS4TX         59  59  57
> > 5    South
> > Africa     ZS
> >    577             1646    14243 SP9PRO        59  59  28
> > 3    Poland
> >        SP
> >    578             1646    14243 N1BCL         59  59  8
> > 5    United
> > States    K
> >    579             1647    14243 IK0PHY        59  59  28
> > 3    European
> > Italy   I
> >    580             1647    14243 UX8ZA         59  59  29
> > 3    Ukraine
> >        UR
> >    581             1647    14243 3Z8Z          59  59  28
> > 3    Poland
> >        SP
> >    582             1648    14243 N8BEE         59  59  8
> > 5    United
> > States    K
> > ------ HERE IS WHERE 3V8BB CALLS on MY freq...
> >    583             1650    14243 DJ1IJ         59  59  28
> > 3    Fed. Rep.
> > of G   DL
> >    584             1650    14243 UX4UA         59  59  29
> > 3    Ukraine
> >        UR
> >    585             1650    14243 UA3OQ         59  59  29
> > 3    European
> > Russi   UA
> >    586             1650    14243 PA0MIR        59  59  27    3
> > Netherlands      PA
> >    587             1651    14243 SN0KAL        59  59  28
> > 3    Poland
> >        SP
> >    588             1652    14243 KL7DX         59  59  1
> > 5 49 Alaska
> >        KL
> >    589             1653    14243 EI4CF         59  59  27
> > 3    Ireland
> >        EI
> >    590             1654    14243 OK1RI         59  59  28
> > 3    Czech
> > Republic   OK
> >    591             1654    14243 ZD8I          59  59  66
> > 5 50 Ascension
> > I.     ZD8
> >
> > And here you have a new file that shows 4 minutes before the 
> > 3V8BB...but in fact if you want me to send the whole log I was on 
> > the frequency a couple of
> > hours before, long enough for me cliaiming the frequency was
> > "mine". And
> > since you will probably complain about the small QSYing on
> > the frequency
> > aswell it was me checking who was making the QRM around me
> > thinking it was
> > LY7Z who I had a struggle with all weekend, right Andy ;-)
> >
> > Throwing this debate into "my bad language" is just redicioulus 
> > Mario...
> >
> > Longer recording -> http://sm3w.m3php.net/sound/3v8bb_2.wav
> > Short recording   -> http://sm3w.m3php.net/sound/3v8bb.wav
> >
> > Hope this will please you?
> >
> > //Mike (SM3WMV // SM3W)
> >
> > >From: "Marijan Miletic, S56A" <s56a at bit.si>
> > >To: <sm3wmv at hotmail.com>
> > >CC: "Dr. Hranislav Milosevic" <yt1ad at EUnet.yu>
> > >Subject: Recording and language
> > >Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 10:39:22 +0200
> > >
> > >YM, I'd give you few month QRT for your language at the
> > radio.  Could you
> > >provide 5 minutes recording before the 3V8BB clash.
> > >
> > >73 de Mario, S56A, N1YU, 3V8BB occassionally
> >
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