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[AMPS] Tuned Input, what me worry

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Subject: [AMPS] Tuned Input, what me worry
From: bjk@ihug.co.nz (Barry Kirkwood)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 11:53:53 +1300
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I seem to remember the famous Ulrich Rohde publishing a small note in =
?Ham Radio using pad and compensating reactances to tame gg input with =
no switching bands.
Anybody got a lead on this?
73
end
Barry Kirkwood PhD ZL1DD
Signal Hill Homestay
66 Cory Road
Palm Beach
Waiheke Island 1240
NEW ZEALAND
www.waiheke.co.nz/signal.htm
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  Sent: Tuesday, 09 October, 2001 11:49 AM
  Subject: [AMPS] Tuned Input, what me worry


  There is a lot of discussion lately on how to design a proper tuned =
input .... that topic and beer have dominated lately.  16 ways to figure =
the Q of the input circuit, 17 ways to tell a really fine beer.  I can =
understand the value of passing on your knowledge of how to judge a =
really good beer, but a tuned input ....why bother.=20

  I built way too many tuned input circuits till I gave it up ... too =
much work.  I ended up borrowing an approach from the old timers (you =
here know who you are) remember swamping.  A variation on the old method =
works for me.  I use a T-PAD attenuator.=20
  The great thing about a T-PAD attenuator is the fact that the load on =
the output side can swing a great deal while the input will stay put =
wonderfully. Does this sound like whats needed for an input circuit, it =
does to me.  These transmitting tubes display a fairly large swing in =
load at different drive levels, not what your exciter needs to see.=20
  I design the T-PAD for 1db attenuation, nobody needs to loose a lot of =
drive power.=20
  I size the resistors (non inductive of course) in each of the three =
legs to handle the dissipation and ..... wallah, you have an input =
circuit that will show your exciter a nice consistent 50 ohm load.  What =
could be simpler. Its worked for me for years.=20

  Now we will all hear whats wrong with this approach .... or maybe just =
some more great beer theory.  =20

  Ron   KH6DV=20
  Kaneohe Hawaii=20


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I seem to remember the famous Ulrich Rohde =
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Anybody got a lead on this?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>73</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D2>There is a =
lot of=20
  discussion lately on how to design a proper tuned input .... that =
topic and=20
  beer have dominated lately. &nbsp;16 ways to figure the Q of the input =

  circuit, 17 ways to tell a really fine beer. &nbsp;I can understand =
the value=20
  of passing on your knowledge of how to judge a really good beer, but a =
tuned=20
  input ....why bother. <BR><BR>I built way too many tuned input =
circuits till I=20
  gave it up ... too much work. &nbsp;I ended up borrowing an approach =
from the=20
  old timers (you here know who you are) remember swamping. &nbsp;A =
variation on=20
  the old method works for me. &nbsp;I use a T-PAD attenuator. <BR>The =
great=20
  thing about a T-PAD attenuator is the fact that the load on the output =
side=20
  can swing a great deal while the input will stay put wonderfully. Does =
this=20
  sound like whats needed for an input circuit, it does to me. =
&nbsp;These=20
  transmitting tubes display a fairly large swing in load at different =
drive=20
  levels, not what your exciter needs to see. <BR>I design the T-PAD for =
1db=20
  attenuation, nobody needs to loose a lot of drive power. <BR>I size =
the=20
  resistors (non inductive of course) in each of the three legs to =
handle the=20
  dissipation and ..... wallah, you have an input circuit that will show =
your=20
  exciter a nice consistent 50 ohm load. &nbsp;What could be simpler. =
Its worked=20
  for me for years. <BR><BR>Now we will all hear whats wrong with this =
approach=20
  .... or maybe just some more great beer theory. &nbsp; <BR><BR>Ron=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;KH6DV <BR>Kaneohe Hawaii=20
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