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Re: [Amps] 10dB and propagation

To: "R.Measures" <r@somis.org>
Subject: Re: [Amps] 10dB and propagation
From: "Michael Tope" <W4EF@dellroy.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 09:56:08 -0800
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "R.Measures" <r@somis.org>

>   Some mornings, 20db more Tx suds produced 20db more Rx signal and on 
> other mornings, 20db more Tx would make c. 23db more Rx signal.  There 
> appeared to be no way of controlling anything.  It was: what you see is 
> what you got, and you can't change it a jot.
> 

So what you are saying is that at one instant with the 
8171 off the signal was S-xx and then in the next instant 
(e.g. in the span of a few seconds) the operator turned 
on the 8171, and the Rx signal went up by 23dB even 
though the increase in tx power in that same instant 
was only 20dB? That would imply that the ionospheric
plasma heating due to the 8171 output was almost 
instantaneous. If that were true, I would expect that the 
thermal conditioning of the plasma could follow the 
syllabic envelope thereby causing distortion. And 
if 16KW PEP to a dipole would cause 3dB distortion,
the just imagine how bad a foreign broadcast station 
would sound running AM with 500 KW to a curtain 
array. If the thermal conditioning were a bit too slow to 
follow the syllabic envelope, then you would be able to 
see some droop on the RX audio output (w/agc off) if you 
pulse modulated the 8171 exciter between say 1 watts 
and 100 watts with a 50% duty cycle square wave. 

Anyway, I don't have a stiff enough service drop to 
run an 8171, so I guess I don't need to worry about all
this :)

73 de Mike, W4EF...........................




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