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Re: [Amps] FW: AMERITRON AL-1500 ????

To: "Michael Tope" <W4EF@dellroy.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] FW: AMERITRON AL-1500 ????
From: R.Measures <r@somis.org>
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 20:59:09 -0700
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On Aug 7, 2005, at 8:47 PM, Michael Tope wrote:

>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "R.Measures" <r@somis.org>
>
>>> Rich,
>>>
>>> You are making an apples to oranges comparison. The issue isn't the
>>> current carrying capability of the 8877 grid, it is the power 
>>> dissipation
>>> of the grid.
>> The grid has ESR.  Current through R causes dissipation.
>
> Yes, of course, Rich, but the ESR is not what is entirely responsible 
> for grid dissipipation due to grid current flowing
> under conditions of excessive drive. If it were, the grid
> drive voltage term would not appear in the calculation of
> grid dissipation.
>>> A capacitor has a power factor of ~0.0.
>
>> Au has c. 60% of the conductance of Cu or Ag.   Just because the grid 
>> has C does that mean there is no P dissipation in the grid?
>
> No, of course not, Rich, but showing that a thin piece of gold plated 
> wire

It's not thin wire, it's rectangular bar stock and there are 108 
segments - each of which appear to have the surface area of approx. 
#16-AWG wire. .

> can carry 40 amps of RF current doesn't say anything about how much 
> power it can dissipate. The anode structure of a tube has ESR too, but 
> we don't calculate plate dissipation based on
> I^2*ESR. We calculate plate dissipation based on Ep x Ip - Pout. 
> Changing the ESR of either structure won't necessarily change their 
> dissipation significantly (e.g. if I could make the ESR of the grid
> or anode conductor zero, they would still dissipate power and get
> hot due to the kinetic energy of the electrons hitting them).

For the anode, the velocity of electrons is great, but for the grid it 
seems not.

> 73 de Mike, W4EF..................................................
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>>> ...
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Richard L. Measures, AG6K, 805.386.3734.  www.somis.org

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