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Re: [Amps] Spam from Members of this List ...

To: amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] Spam from Members of this List ...
From: mike kendall <ke6cvh@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 22:29:25 -0700 (PDT)
List-post: <mailto:amps@contesting.com>
Tony,
    I agree 100 percent with what you have said and am certain the other 
describers would also in vast majority.  I was unaware that a consequence of 
joining this list would be to have my ermail address published in the open and 
I thank you for your time to research and uncover this, it is un-acceptable and 
I think the moderators should apologize for the personnel who run the group 
(one and the same?). It is apparently an invasion of privacy that they have 
started.
    I am curious to the subject of your spams as I have recently been receiving 
an annoying string of emails about laptop computers that has been going on for 
2 weeks..
    I also think the tendancy to use the moderator's power loosely in placing 
blame on others is also un-acceptable if in-fact the culprit is their posting 
of email addresses.
  Thanks again Tony.
  Best Regards,
Mike Kendall (I promise that I did not send an email to you directly)

1806@w4zt.com> wrote:
  Regarding SPAM to people on this list...

I have received and continue to receive SPAM to the email address (past
and present) that I use exclusively on this list. The email is NOT
coming from any address that is being used on this list, yet it is
coming directly to my specific amps email address. That is why I change 
the email address frequently that I use here and block the old one.

Want to know why?

The reason why is because Contesting Dot Com publishes ALL of our email
addresses IN THE CLEAR on the archive. The spammers collect these email
addresses from the archive without having to sign in or do ANYTHING
except grab them and use them. Don't believe me? Do a Google search on
your specific email address you use on this list. See that your postings
including email addresses are all there.

I personally think it is up to the folks at Contesting Dot Com to take
full responsibility for this problem and do the right thing by taking
steps to insure that list members addresses and preferably ALL HEADERS 
are not published in the wild where they can be abused by unnamed and 
unreachable SPAMMERS. One option is to REQUIRE signing in by registered 
users only to view the archives.

My latest SPAM to this address had the following pertinent headers is
posted below. Note that once your email address is out in the wild, it 
can NEVER be fixed. That email address is ruined forever. The only way 
to quit receiving that email is to change your address.

Administrator(s), do not be so quick to blame the individuals on this
list for a problem that you have created yourself.

Kindest regards,
Tony King, W4ZT

X-Iris-Envelope-Recipient: 
X-Iris-Envelope-Sender: 
X-Iris-Host: 3640421945/web55811.mail.re3.yahoo.com
Received: from web55811.mail.re3.yahoo.com (HELO
web55811.mail.re3.yahoo.com) (216.252.110.57) by iris1.directnic.com
(iris/0.180:341928) with SMTP for (rule 341928); 3
Aug 2006 09:42:47 +0000
Return-Path: bar_wagner_esq@yahoo.com
Received: (qmail 98847 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Aug 2006 09:42:45 -0000
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024;
d=yahoo.com;
h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding;
b=by4SdQJ154FJI47GwBfQIULtDnac7mkTHq/LVOakjAKkDS7Vtf4ujFYGUGI7Ol+tvV/6NeWJaeeT8jO8b5IxmUfdKVIhq7FnrvMOcwQ7L7QJYCFiiFnssO3LOvqVSuLwyQuggB87pWPK2JSQ/Mcm4YsnqT+45I9tKJ0ZZggxZY8=
;
Message-ID: <20060803094245.98845.qmail@web55811.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Received: from [213.185.106.75] by web55811.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP;
Thu, 03 Aug 2006 02:42:45 PDT
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 02:42:45 -0700 (PDT)
Received-SPF: none (web55811.mail.re3.yahoo.com: domain of
bar_wagner_esq@yahoo.com does not designate permitted sender hosts)
From: Peter Wagner 
Reply-To: wagner_esq@sify.com
Subject: Atten:: Tony King
To: amps071806@w4zt.com

Do a trace route to the source address 213.185.106.75 and you get this: 
fus-rt004-fe-0-0-v3.its-dvb.globalconnex.net (80.255.48.4)



Administrator wrote:
> I have recently received complaints from subscribers to this list of
> spam from the list. On examining the alleged spam emails, it appears
> that one or more list subscribers have harvested e-mail addresses and
> are CCing each of the harvested addresses in addition to posting to
> the list. This must stop immediately!
> 
> Anyone found to be engaging in this practice will be unsubscribed 
> immediately and without further notice.
> 
> 73,
> 
> ... Administrator amps@contesting.com
> 
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