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Re: [Amps] FW: Zener Bias Replacement

To: lncarman@swbell.net, amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] FW: Zener Bias Replacement
From: TexasRF@aol.com
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 16:46:39 EST
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Wonder if Frank, K2AW (Silicon Alley) still offers 50w zener diodes? He had  
quite good prices a few years ago when I needed some.
 
73, Gerald K5GW
 
In a message dated 11/7/2006 3:33:12 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
lncarman@swbell.net writes:

OK...  you all have sold me on the idea of using zeners instead of  standard
diodes. At least by using standard diodes I have determined the  bias voltage
I need. Now I have to find a zener supplier that will  accommodate a poor
mans budget. 
Regards to all and thanks for the  info.
Larry N5BIP

-----Original Message-----
From:  amps-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] On
Behalf  Of Marv Gonsior
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 2:08 PM
To:  amps@contesting.com
Subject: [Amps] Zener Bias  Replacement


>
>>I've been following this string with a  great deal of interest as 
>>some years ago, W6GNX and I made bias  measurements on three 
>>different legal limit 8877 amps.  Two  were home brew and one was a 
>>Henry 3K Classic X.  All were  measured up to 1A of anode 
>>current.  We no longer have the  data but the diode strings were by 
>>far the worst regulators as  compared to a Zener and a simple 
>>transistor regulator.  The  developed 12V from the diode string 
>>continuously rose with the  current like a rubber band and, 
>>obviously as now a number of  inputs have shown, the t.c. is part of 
>>the problem let alone  having ~20 diodes to assemble for an 
>>8877.  The suggestion of  two 6V Zeners seems like a very good choice.
>
>In my case, with  the two different 8877 amps, the Henry was pretty 
>bad and it used  a  Semtech diode pack (replaced with a 50W Zener on 
>a good heat  sink) and the rise was in the order of several volts at 
>peak anode  current.  Obviously, this leads to current and power 
>limiting and  IMD generation.  In my opinion the diode string is the 
>worst  thing one could do for biasing!  In a number of times, in the  
>past. when I have read where someone extolled the virtues of doing  
>this, I have written and asked for a measurement but never had a  
>reply.  I have to wonder why.  It is refreshing to see the  current 
>interest in this area and it would be a real benefit to all to  see 
>some additional, meaningful measurement data being  published.
>
>>73,
>>
>>Marv,  W6FR
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