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Re: [Amps] Clippertion L 572B tubes: Solder Water-Wash Flux

Subject: Re: [Amps] Clippertion L 572B tubes: Solder Water-Wash Flux
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 09:18:11 -0400 (EDT)
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I am referring to modern, water-wash flux like this from


Multicore Water Wash Fluxes-IPA Based
Hydro-X/20â High Activity Flux A high activity water washable flux designed 
for the soldering of the most difficult electronic assemblies. Unique activator 
package enables a wider process window and the soldering of all common 
electronic surfaces with ease.Residues are readily and completely removed by 
water wash after soldering. Suitable for lead-free wave soldering.
% Solids: 20 % Halides: 1.0 Acid Value: 24


If you're not using this, you are obviously from the dark ages and you probably 
voted for Truman while in your 40's.

No one solders with the crap inside solder anymore unless your living in a 
cave.  It is like the lap dance with the 20-year-old: you'll never go back to 
your wife after soldering with this stuff.

Take my word for it people, I do development electronics all day.  That is the 
great thing about internet forums: learning to do things the easy way from 
people who do it for a living.


Steve, K0SF

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Bonner" <>
To: "STEVEN & NANCY FRAASCH" <>, "John." <>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 6:58:56 PM (GMT-0600) America/Chicago
Subject: RE: [Amps] Clippertion L 572B tubes

Of course he is referring to silver solder and Rosin flux.  Acid flux usually 
used in plumbing corrodes electrical components. 


-----Original Message-----
From: [] On 
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 12:38 PM
To: John.
Subject: Re: [Amps] Clippertion L 572B tubes

Don't go too crazy replacing tubes.  More often that not, a tube is still quite 
good after years of use.  Assuming that the filaments are wired in parallel, 
plug one tube into the amp at a time, key the amp and monitor quiescent plate 
current.  The resting current should be within 20% of the group mean.  If you 
have an assortment of tubes, I would match them for resting current (again, 
checking them one at a time assuming filaments are parallel connected).  If you 
have an extreme outlier that has low resting current, I would suspect that it 
is weak.  Use tubes with similar gain together.  The RF transistor industry 
used to do this by marking BJTs with an ink to indicate Beta grouping.

I would pull a leakage current check on HV caps.  You can do that by putting a 
10K ohm resistor in series with a single silicon diode (1N400x) and hook up to 
110VAC (one cap at a time).  The cap should charge, then not take more than a 
few microamps thereafter.  Measure the voltage drop accross the resistor; it 
should be nil.  I find that many caps in old amplifiers leak and require 

Replace any and all heat damaged components such as resistors and caps.  Check 
that variable cap plates are parallel.  Replace noisy fans.  Clean old grease 
and re-lube.

Check the bandswitch. If there are broken or burnt contacts, replace it.  If 
the position stays are worn, replace it too.  There is nothing more annoying 
than a flaky bandswitch.  You can buy silver solder and liquid flux from 
various vendors on line.

Check to make sure that all solder connections are intact.  I find many 
corroded and defective joints in amplifiers.  Use liquid flux which will help 
clean crud and allow using less heat than without flux.

That's about it.  You have a simple amplifier so that this should be pretty 
easy.  Good luck,


Steve, K0SF

----- Original Message -----
From: "John." <>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:40:53 AM (GMT-0600) America/Chicago
Subject: [Amps] Clippertion L 572B tubes

I am in the process of restoring a Clippertion L amp.  Any thing that I 
should look at that has been a problem ?

Looking for some good 572B's pulls or something like that. Need 4.

If one could be found then I could start testing the amp.

Thanks de John KÃCQW
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