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Re: [Amps] SB-220 saga continues

To: "W7RY" <w7ry@arrl.net>, <ke1fo@arrl.net>, <amps@contesting.com>, "YCCC" <yccc@yccc.org>
Subject: Re: [Amps] SB-220 saga continues
From: "Gary Smith" <wa6fgi@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 11:09:01 -0800
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Had this same attenuation problem occur in a 30-S1 I had a few years back.
Cleaned the rx/tx contacts with Caig chemical's Deoxit contact cleaner, 
problem disappeared completely never to return.
73's,
Gary...wa6fgi


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "W7RY" <w7ry@arrl.net>
To: <ke1fo@arrl.net>; <amps@contesting.com>; "YCCC" <yccc@yccc.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Amps] SB-220 saga continues


> Sounds like the relay in the amp is energizing when you turn on the amp. 
> My guess is that your relay contacts in your transceiver are stuck 
> (shorted).
>
> Unplug the PTT cable from the amp or the rig. I but it works fine then. If 
> so, you need to repair your rig. AND add a PTT buffer between the amp and 
> the rig so it does not happen again.
>
> The PTT line of the SB220 has a .01 or .02 uF cap across the plug. When 
> the transceiver keys the amp, the relay in the rig must short out the .02 
> uF cap and this causes a pretty big arc across the relay contacts of the 
> rig.
>
> 73
>
> Jim W7RY
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Alfred Frugoli
>  To: amps@contesting.com ; YCCC
>  Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 8:23 PM
>  Subject: [Amps] SB-220 saga continues
>
>
>  Hello everyone,
>
>  So it seems I've got a problem with my SB-220.
>
>  When the amp is off, but connected in the RF path, everything is fine.
>
>  When I switch the amp on I've suddenly got lots of attenuation happening 
> on
>  the receive path.  Transmit seems fine - amp tunes OK etc.
>
>  My first suspicion was that there were dirty relay contacts on the 
> receive
>  side.  Cleaned the contacts with no success.  Then I realized that the
>  problem only occurs when the amp is on.  So a trip to the schematic tells 
> me
>  I don't understand.  In the RX mode the RF path through the amplifier 
> should
>  be the same as when the power is on.  So I'm not sure where my 
> attenuation
>  is coming from.
>
>  Just testing it a few minutes ago I can make an S5-7 station almost
>  completely disappear by turning on the amp, so I've got somewhere in the
>  area of 20db of attenuation happening!
>
>  Thoughts?
>
>  Thanks.
>
>  73 de Al, KE1FO
>
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