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Re: [Amps] High SWR,

To: "KB0NLY" <kb0nly@mchsi.com>, <amps@contesting.com>, "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] High SWR,
From: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 08:47:23 -0400
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Whether I leave or not is inmaterial and it certainly wont be at the 
request of someone like Scott.  Particularly since my post was rather 
generic and not singling out anyone.  Guilty conscience maybe?

What is important is that the forum not become taken over by the likes 
of a certain few who seem to have a high degree of emotional instability 
to add to their lack of knowledge. Thats a bad combination.

Ah yes, the battles of the past! There were actually times when those 
antagonists made sense to those of us who were mostly bystanders.

What I miss the most were the several engineers of amp and tube 
companies along with a few EE college professors. They pretty much put 
one of their own in his place at least until they left the forum. I also 
left after that as the discussions became pretty much a one man show.

Carl
KM1H






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
To: "KB0NLY" <kb0nly@mchsi.com>; <amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 6:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Amps] High SWR,


> Carl occasionally goes too far, but he also has forgotten more about
> amps (from a practical and repair perspective, especially) than most
> of us will ever learn.  He's a valuable resource, and it would be a
> shame to have him banned.  Use your delete key or filter his messages.
>
> Compared to the flame wars of old, this is pretty tame stuff.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> At 10:47 PM 4/22/2009, KB0NLY wrote:
>>Why doesn't someone finally kick Carl off here for god's sake?  I 
>>can't
>>remember the last time he contributing something on topic or worth 
>>reading.
>>I was on a different computer today when his comments came through, 
>>forgot
>>to block him on here, now he is in the block list on both computers.
>>
>>73,
>>
>>Scott
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Gary Schafer" <garyschafer@comcast.net>
>>To: "'Carl'" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>; <ve3zi@rac.ca>; "'Amps'"
>><amps@contesting.com>
>>Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 9:28 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Amps] High SWR,
>>
>>
>> > Well, spouting off can be a good thing. That's what the reflector 
>> > is for.
>> > So
>> > people can learn from one another. Plus it provides some 
>> > entertainment for
>> > us old farts.
>> >
>> > 73
>> > Gary  K4FMX
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: amps-bounces@contesting.com 
>> >> [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] On
>> >> Behalf Of Carl
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:35 PM
>> >> To: ve3zi@rac.ca; Amps
>> >> Subject: Re: [Amps] High SWR,
>> >>
>> >> Roger, youre correct; its been said so many times you would think 
>> >> it
>> >> would sink in.
>> >>
>> >> But with noobs from the CB/FM ranks old myths die hard. They cant 
>> >> be
>> >> bothered buying a Handbook or Antenna Manual and just spout off on 
>> >> here
>> >> and elsewhere with zero idea of what they are talking about.
>> >>
>> >> Carl
>> >> KM1H
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Roger Parsons" <ve3zi@yahoo.com>
>> >> To: "Amps" <amps@contesting.com>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:13 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Amps] High SWR,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > I know this has been said before, but just because your SWR 
>> >> > meter says
>> >> > there is x Watts of power coming back down the line, it doesn't 
>> >> > mean
>> >> > that it is being dissipated in your transmitter. All it means is 
>> >> > that
>> >> > the transmitter sees a load other than 50 Ohms (or whatever) - 
>> >> > and it
>> >> > may or may not be able to match it. If you have a really bad 
>> >> > mismatch
>> >> > you can (apparently) have the situation that your 100W 
>> >> > transmitter is
>> >> > (say) transmitting 1kW and getting 900W back. Obviously that 
>> >> > can't
>> >> > really happen - the reason that it seems to is that the SWR 
>> >> > meter is
>> >> > measuring Volt-Amperes (reactive power) rather than Watts (real
>> >> > power) - that is that the current and voltage are not in phase -
>> >> > except in the special case of a 1:1 SWR.
>> >> >
>> >> > 73 Roger
>> >> > VE3ZI
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
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