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Re: [Amps] 813 Amplifier Article

To: "Fuqua, Bill L" <wlfuqu00@uky.edu>, <dhallam@knology.net>, <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] 813 Amplifier Article
From: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:05:57 -0400
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Id love to fire up a 2000T on AM! I even have a suitable PS and mod xfmr for 
it. Even a couple of 750's or 1000T's would do(-;

When I was stationed at NAS Olathe 1960-61 the K0NAB club station had a 
surplus amp with 1500T's in the final and PP 1000T's for modulators. When 
the QRM got bad or the Slopbucketeers were trying to jam our phone patches 
we used the regular 32V2/BC-610 setup as a driver. With a 6el Telrex at 90' 
it cleared some mighty big holes!

Carl
KM1H




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fuqua, Bill L" <wlfuqu00@uky.edu>
To: <dhallam@knology.net>; <amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Amps] 813 Amplifier Article


>I am glad that someone has noticed the difference.
>
>   I have plenty of 4E27As and 4-125A, 6155 etc.
> And some 4-65A tubes.  My glass EIMAC collection has every thing from a 
> 15E to 2000T but missing
> a 1500T.  An interesting thing is that the 1000T is smaller than a 750TL 
> and is sam size as a 450TL/TH.
> However, is has a small metal tube to blow extra air on the filament seal. 
> I suspect it was intended as
> a relatively easy upgrade for transmitters using 450TH/TL tubes.
>
>  73
> Bill wa4lav
>
> ________________________________________
> From: amps-bounces@contesting.com [amps-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf 
> Of David C. Hallam [dhallam@knology.net]
> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 12:19 PM
> To: amps@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [Amps] 813 Amplifier Article
>
> Strangely enough, the 4E27 and the 4E27A were two completely different
> tubes. The 27 is a tetrode and the 27A is a pentode with greater
> dissipation.  They are not interchangeable.  At one time I ran a 4E27A
> in a 500W CW transmitter from a design published in a 60's ARRL handbook.
>
> David
> KW4DH
>
>
>
> On 3/31/2011 12:01 PM, jerryjtb@comcast.net wrote:
>> Should anyone be interested I have a new pair of Eimac 4E27 tubes. They 
>> were
>> stored for at least 25 years.
>>
>> Jerry W0ZD/3
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: amps-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] On
>> Behalf Of Carl
>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 10:34 AM
>> To: ka4inm@tampabay.rr.com; amps
>> Subject: Re: [Amps] 813 Amplifier Article
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ron Youvan"<ka4inm@tampabay.rr.com>
>> To: "amps"<amps@contesting.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Amps] 813 Amplifier Article
>>
>>
>>> Fuqua, Bill L wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have thought of replacing the 813's with 4E27A's. Has anyone used
>>>> 4E27A's in grounded grid.
>>>> They are pentodes with 125 watts plate dissipation and wire the 
>>>> filaments
>>>> in series since they are 5V.
>>>> They should have a nice plate glow to them and go in the same socket.
>>>     http://www.tubecollector.org/4e27.htm
>>>
>>> says the 4E27 has a 75 Watts plate dissipation.
>>>    ???  I believe the 4E27 is more rare than 813s.
>>> --
>>>     Ron  KA4INM - Endless Loop: n.        see Loop, Endless.
>>
>> I notice 4E27A's being ignored on Fleabay and at hamfests. My only
>> experience with them was a couple of 6M AM rigs I built to get some 
>> activity
>>
>> on the band. They sure did glow nice.
>>
>> The H&K 257B is a 4E27 clone.
>>
>> If you dont want bands above 20M a couple of 803's can really make some
>> power and will take the same socket as the various Eimac 4- and 5- 
>> triodes
>> and tetrodes.
>>
>> The 814/VT-154 is a scaled down 813 and generally ignored but 3-4 will be
>> heard.
>>
>> Carl
>> KM1H
>>
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