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Re: [Amps] Different amp recommendations

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Subject: Re: [Amps] Different amp recommendations
From: Charlie Young <weeksmgr@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 15:35:50 -0600
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I have two  AL-82 amplifiers, plus an Alpha 77DX, an AL-1500  and an assortment 
of other amplifiers.   The one I use 90% of the time is the AL-82, precisely 
because it takes a licking and keeps on ticking.  It is the Ford or Chevy 
pickup truck of legal limit amplifiers.  
 
I can change bands with it in 10 or 15 seconds, and don't have to baby it 
during tuneup.  It has no trouble producing legal limit output on any band.  
One of the AL-82 amplifiers is on standby when I am in the shack, which being 
retired is nearly all the time.  I run 1500 watts output with it on RTTY.  I am 
not a contester any longer but am a serious DX'er.  My RTTY transmissions are 
short DX pileup calls, not 10 minute ragchews, which may be why the equipment 
has not failed.  Maybe if I were a RTTY contester or ragchewer, the results 
would be different.    
 
Certainly these AL series amps are not built like Alpha amps but they make RF 
power at the legal limit for far less cost.  I push the heck out of this one 
and don't worry about it.  If we do ever lose a tube (it has not happened yet), 
it won't break the bank.  These Chinese graphite tubes seem to be pretty 
rugged.   I can fix anything that would go wrong and can get the parts from 
Ameritron.  
 
At $1500 to $1800 on the used market for an AL-82, it is a pretty cost 
effective way to make legal limit power, in my experience. 
 
Why do I have two?  They came together in an estate sale.  One of my friends is 
using my spare AL-82 while the pin diodes are replaced in his  Alpha 87.  
 
Others may have different experiences.  Your mileage may vary.  
 
73 Charlie N8RR   
 
 
 

> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 11:47:42 -0600
> From: ranchorobbo@gmail.com
> To: amps@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [Amps] Different amp recommendations
> 
> I have doubts about the AL82 doing 1500 watts 100% duty cycle for very long.
> 
> Knowing the p.s. in that amp you'll be right at its limit, right at
> the Ip limit of the tubes, right at or a bit above their maximum
> dissipation...
> 
> It's a "legal limit" amp only because Ameritron heaped up the Ep.
> 
> But you can call almost anything "legal limit" with no time factor considered.
> 
> Your enemy is time. do you want to go for 10 minutes or more at 1500
> w. on RTTY? Do you want to be able to forget about the amp and not
> have to look at it nervously every 15 seconds to make sure it's okay?
> 
> Personally, I like overbuilt stuff.
> 
> you can beef up the AL-82 in some ways and settle for 1.2 or 1.3 KW,
> homebrew an amp or keep looking with more money.
> 
> 73
> 
> Rob
> K5UJ
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