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Re: [Amps] Best source for Gigavac GH-1 ?

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Subject: Re: [Amps] Best source for Gigavac GH-1 ?
From: Karl-Arne Markström <sm0aom@telia.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 07:09:30 +0100 (CET)
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Interesting discussion.
 
Usually relays have better reliability than specifications indicate, but
QSK operations do put a lot of stress on them.
 
The sequence "TEST W6WRT TEST" contains a total of 6+16+6 = 28 binary symbols 
which each consists of one make and one break cycle of the relays.
 
If this is repeated 2000 times, a minimum of 56000 + other transmissions, say 
80000 cycles, would result for one contest.
 
A reasonable actual life expectation for the average vacuum relay, assuming 
cold switching, is 4 - 5 million cycles, so it may be possible to wear out a 
relay in 50 - 70 or less contest occasions.

73/
Karl-Arne
SM0AOM

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On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 20:54:37 -0800, Jim wrote:

>
>That would have a lot to do with the use they get. How many contest QSOs 
>do you make in a year?  I do a lot, and after the second time having to 
>replace relays in the middle of a contest, I've switched to 
>semi-breakin.  :)  I use Ten Tec Titans, which are well sequenced.
>
>73, Jim K9YC

REPLY:

The math is interesting. The relay is rated at 2 million operations.

Sending TEST W6WRT TEST is 13 characters
I can easily sent that 2000 times in a contest plus exchanges any S&amp;P
That's 24000 relay operations at a minimum
2,000,000 /  24000 = 84 contests not including whatever other operating you
do.

Conclusion: QSK with a relay is expensive.  
PIN diodes might be a good alternative, but they have their problems too. 

73, Bill W6WRT
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