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Re: [Amps] Discrepencies in Pi-net calculators

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Subject: Re: [Amps] Discrepencies in Pi-net calculators
From: Larry Benko <xxw0qe@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 22:31:50 -0700
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Steve,

According to my calculations all 3 networks match 50 ohms to 135 ohms @ 28.03MHz. However Group 1 has a Q of 1.9, Group 2 has Q of 4.7, and Group 3 has Q of 2.7 according to my understanding of nodal Q.

73,
Larry, W0QE



On 11/19/2013 7:24 PM, Steve Flood wrote:
I've been working through some Pi-network design for an input tuning network
recently and have tried out several online calculators as well as
traditional formulas and  common software.  Using the same input variables
for each tool, I generated three very different results.

For Rin = 50 ohms, Rout = 135 ohms, f=28.03 MHz, Q=2.7

Group 1:  Tonne's PI-EL software, ARRL Handbook formulas, and Jim Hawkins
online Java Radio Calculator.

Cin = 93pF, L=457nH, Cout=79pF

Group 2:  VK1OD online calculator, electronicdesign.com calculator, and
raltron.com calculator.

Cin = 307pF, L=251nH, Cout=194pF

Group 3:  EEweb.com calculator, VK2ZAY online calculator, and Impedance
Matching Network Designer online calculator (sandiego.edu).

Cin=163pF, L=383nH, Cout=113pF

So then, you can see my dilemma here.   Why are these so different? And why
the common groupings?

Steve, KK7UV

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