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Subject: Re: [Amps] Amps Digest, Vol 177, Issue 5
From: Gary Smith via Amps <amps@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Gary Smith <wa6fgi@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 15:44:54 +0000 (UTC)
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Regarding message #1:
Adam, ab4oj has a diagram on making up a simple cable to connect a VL-1000 to 
other than Yaesu amps.
He is a friendly sort of guy, very knowledgeable.
Gary...wa6fgi
 

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Today's Topics:

  1. Yaesu VL1000 amp with other exciters (dave arruzza)
  2. Apparent Arcing (Roger Parsons)
  3. Grid dip meters 2 models, opinions? (Conrad PA5Y)
  4. Re: Grid dip meters 2 models, opinions? (Steve Wright)
  5. Re: Apparent Arcing (Ron Youvan)
  6. Re: Grid dip meters 2 models, opinions? (Jim Brown)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2017 18:28:28 +0000 (UTC)
From: dave arruzza <w1ctn@yahoo.com>
To: "amps@contesting.com" <amps@contesting.com>,     YCCC Reflector
    <yccc@yccc.org>
Subject: [Amps] Yaesu VL1000 amp with other exciters
Message-ID: <544168118.2610252.1504549708677@mail.yahoo.com>
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To all: 
Has anyone developed a simple "plug and play" cable combination, that is 
available commercially,? so the VL-1000 operates as it does with a Yaesu 
exciter. 

I don't want to adjust levels or loose any functionality, just plug it in, turn 
of the rig and it works. 

Icom, Kenwood or Elecraft exciters. 

73Dave 
W1CTN


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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2017 20:25:19 +0000 (UTC)
From: Roger Parsons <ve3zi@yahoo.com>
To: Amps <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: [Amps] Apparent Arcing
Message-ID: <2130636893.2812425.1504556719879@mail.yahoo.com>
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I recently 'completed' a new amplifier. Everything seemed fine and I was quite 
happy. But I was only checking the transmit functions.


However: I now find that when I power on the HV I get rf noise in the receiver 
- sounds and spectrum are just like power line arcing. But it's not.

Obviously the first suspect was the high voltage circuitry. I disconnected the 
wiring to the tube, followed by the capacitor bank and bleeder resistors, 
followed by the rectifier diodes. No difference.

So it seemed I was left with the power transformer. With AC power on the 
primary and nothing on the secondary I get the noise. I tried an RFI filter in 
series and it fixed it completely. However, I am not very keen on leaving that 
in circuit because it seems to be covering the real fault. I then tried 
connecting the power transformer primary directly to the circuit breaker (no 
secondary load). No noise. I then connected the power transformer directly to 
the circuit breaker (again no secondary load), but reconnected the soft start, 
etc (That wiring going nowhere). No noise. (I can't connect the primary of the 
HV transformer directly to the circuit breaker with a secondary load as I need 
the soft start in that condition.)


(The HV transformer is new and very well impregnated. It does not get hot or 
let smoke out. I find it difficult to believe that there is something like a 
shorted turn causing the noise, but I suppose it is possible.)


OK, I thought. Perhaps it's a bad contact in the soft start relay or the HV 
relay. Cleaned the contacts up (they actually looked fine before anyway) and no 
difference to the noise. Bypassed everything I could find. No difference.


Last thing. The noise only happens when the transformer has AC power. Once the 
power is off, the noise disappers even before the capacitor bank has discharged.

Obviously I'm missing something! Any ideas what?

Thanks

Roger
VE3ZI


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2017 22:51:22 +0200
From: Conrad PA5Y <g0ruz@g0ruz.com>
To: amps@contesting.com
Subject: [Amps] Grid dip meters 2 models, opinions?
Message-ID: <e59778e7-6029-8f56-1243-7dc99f058a15@g0ruz.com>
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Hello all I have found 2 second hand grid dip meters.

One is a Heathkit HD1250 price 80 Euros, the other is? a Leader LDM-815 
price 50 Euros, you tube videos show that they both seem to work. The 
Heathkit seems very popular but what am I getting for the extra 30 
Euros? Probably a good resale value but I want to use it not sell it :)

Anyone have experience of both meters by any chance?

73

Conrad PA5Y




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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 08:55:22 +1200
From: Steve Wright <stevewrightnz@gmail.com>
To: Conrad PA5Y <g0ruz@g0ruz.com>, amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] Grid dip meters 2 models, opinions?
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On 05/09/17 08:51, Conrad PA5Y wrote:
> Hello all I have found 2 second hand grid dip meters.

Perhaps you have a good reason for using a dip meter (I have one), but
the inexpensive and new technology VNAs run circles around a dip meter
for functionality.

Steve



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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2017 18:27:50 -0400
From: Ron Youvan <ka4inm@gmail.com>
To: amps <amps@contesting.com>
Cc: Roger Parsons <ve3zi@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Apparent Arcing
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    Roger VE3ZI Parsons via Amps wrote:

> I recently 'completed' a new amplifier. Everything seemed fine and I was 
> quite happy. But I was only checking the transmit functions.

> However: I now find that when I power on the HV I get rf noise in the 
> receiver - sounds and spectrum are just like power line arcing. But it's not.

> Obviously the first suspect was the high voltage circuitry. I disconnected 
> the wiring to the tube, followed by the capacitor bank and bleeder resistors, 
> followed by the rectifier diodes. No difference.

> So it seemed I was left with the power transformer. With AC power on the 
> primary and nothing on the secondary I get the noise. I tried an RFI filter 
> in series and it fixed it completely. However, I am not very keen on leaving 
> that in circuit because it seems to be covering the real fault. I then tried 
> connecting the power transformer primary directly to the circuit breaker (no 
> secondary load). No noise. I then connected the power transformer directly to 
> the circuit breaker (again no secondary load), but reconnected the soft 
> start, etc (That wiring going nowhere). No noise. (I can't connect the 
> primary of the HV transformer directly to the circuit breaker with a 
> secondary load as I need the soft start in that condition.)

> (The HV transformer is new and very well impregnated. It does not get hot or 
> let smoke out. I find it difficult to believe that there is something like a 
> shorted turn causing the noise, but I suppose it is possible.)

> OK, I thought. Perhaps it's a bad contact in the soft start relay or the HV 
> relay. Cleaned the contacts up (they actually looked fine before anyway) and 
> no difference to the noise. Bypassed everything I could find. No difference.

> Last thing. The noise only happens when the transformer has AC power. Once 
> the power is off, the noise disappers even before the capacitor bank has 
> discharged.

> Obviously I'm missing something! Any ideas what?

  This sounds (pin intended) like you are hearing the tubes (idling)
electron flow, check your T/R switch and it's connections.
-- 
  Ron  KA4INM - Youvan's corollary:
                Every action results in unwanted side effects.


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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2017 15:42:04 -0700
From: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
To: amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] Grid dip meters 2 models, opinions?
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On 9/4/2017 1:55 PM, Steve Wright wrote:
> On 05/09/17 08:51, Conrad PA5Y wrote:
>> Hello all I have found 2 second hand grid dip meters.
> Perhaps you have a good reason for using a dip meter (I have one), but
> the inexpensive and new technology VNAs run circles around a dip meter
> for functionality.

I strongly agree, and DG8SAQ's VNWA 3e, sold assembled and fully tested 
by SDR Kits in the UK, is a real bargain. I've had mine for about 4 
years, and love it!?? It is well supported both by SDR Kits and DG8SAQ, 
both of whom monitor their Yahoo Group.

http://sdr-kits.net/VNWA3_Description.html

I paid about $700 back then delivered to my door with calibration it, 
but thanks to Brexit, it would be under $600.?? I bought the 
"presentation case," but don't recommend it.? Add 20% VAT where 
applicable (not USA).

73, Jim K9YC




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