This discussion needs to keep in mind that moving the CW
Sprint one weekend earlier will mean changing the SSB
Sprint weekend also. I guess that would mean swapping
them. That would mean losing most of the FOC members
from most Feb CW Sprints (but not all of them). This
would put things back where they were before the change
a few years ago. I think the change was done for a good
reason and we would never have considered changing back
except for the start up of a new RTTY contest on what
had always been a Sprint (but a SSB Sprint) weekend.
73,
John, K4BAI.
>
> I agree with both Tyler & Barry on this one. It would be better to
> move the NA Sprint up to the XE RTTY weekend. There is not a
> whole of activity in XE RTTY even though I did make nearly 800 Q's
> this year but only 60 were on 40 meters. There is no incentive to operate
> 40 in the XE contest (except for me because I'm so close to Mexico,
> I get all those nice mults on 40). There is incentive to work 40 in WPX
> because of double points.
>
> Last weekend, the smart CW ops stayed pretty much below 7040 and
> the smart RTTY ops stayed above 7040 and even moved up as high as
> 7055 which was nice. However, it would have been much better to have
> the whole RTTY DX window for those 4 hours of the Sprint. I ended
> staying up in the "US" part of the band until the Sprint was over. When
> I was down there, I only saw a couple of frequency battles going on, but
> face it, who's dumb enough to have a frequency battle with someone on
> another mode? Nobody wins.
>
> Just my .02 worth. I would hope the NA Sprint will move up one weekend.
>
> 73, Don AA5AU
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry " <w2up@mindspring.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>; "RTTY Reflector" <rtty@contesting.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 11:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] Re: [CQ-Contest] Morons at the NCJ
>
>
> > As a "two mode" contester (CW and RTTY), I agree with Tyler one
> > hundred percent.
> >
> > As I've said before on the RTTY Reflector, IMO, there are way too many
> > minor RTTY contests, and I would much rather see the activity of casual
> > (and not-so-casual) ops concentrated in the bigger contests. With no
> > disrepect intended to our XE friends, I'd like to see the XE RTTY
> > contest, and a bunch of others, just go away due to lack of interest.
> >
> > I, too, would like to see the WPX RTTY moved further from ARRL CW. I
> > can't operate back to back weekends seriously. In years I have
> > operated the RTTY WPX, I've done ARRL CW part-time multi at N3RS
> > (to paraphrase Seinfeld, "not that there's anything wrong with that").
> > Some years, I like to operate ARRL CW from home, and in those years
> > I don't do the WPX test.
> > 73,
> > Barry W2UP
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 9 Feb 2002 Tyler Stewart wrote:
> >
> > > As an "all-mode" contester, I would have to say that the RTTY WPX is the
> > > second or third largest RTTY contest of the year.
> > >
> > > The XE RTTY contest is a very minor and shouldnt even be considered as an
> > > obstruction.
> > >
> > > Irregardless, I would not concern myself too much with trying to dodge
> > > RTTY
> > > contests. The Sprints are only 4 hours on the second night of the DX
> > > contest and there are other places the DX will go, even tho a lot of them
> > > are supposed to stay between 7030 and 7040.
> > >
> > > Since the RTTY WPX has 18 hours of off time in 48 hours, there are a lot
> > > of
> > > guys off the air as well.
> > >
> > > RTTY has been having to dodge all kinds of QRM in the lower section of the
> > > band for years and years. They should be used to it by now. Perhaps the
> > > Sprinters will want to avoid this window, staying above 7040 or below
> > > 7030.
> > > However, there is already EU packet/pactor below 7040 to 7030 and SSB
> > > above
> > > 7040 which they still have to deal with on a regular basis.
> > >
> > > If you want to move the Sprint or WPX that would be fine with me.
> > > Personally I'd like to see the RTTY WPX move to the first weekend because
> > > it's too close to the ARRL DX weekend for me to participate seriously. My
> > > family will only tolerate so many adjacent contesting weekends and they
> > > are
> > > quite tolerant as it is... The Sprints being only 4 hours long "dont
> > > count"
> > > as contest weekends in my book! hi!
> > >
> > > Just my humble opinions.
> > >
> > > 73, Ty K3MM
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Tree N6TR" <tree@kkn.net>
> > > To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 5:43 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Morons at the NCJ
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > K4IK writes:
> > > >
> > > > > > The obvious "fix" is to move the RTTY and FOC contests on the same
> > > > > > weekend because the FOCers don't go up above 7035 and have the
> > > > > > NCJ CW Sprint on the other weekend.
> > > > >
> > > > > > I would be happy to move the CW Sprint to whichever weekend it takes
> > > > > > to make this happen.
> > > > >
> > > > > What is the possibility of exchanging weekends for the FOC Marathon
> > > > > and CW Sprint? RTTY WPX is between a rock and a hard place since
> > > > > the Mexico International RTTY is the first full weekend of February
> > > > > and the ARRL DX Contest (CW) is the third full weekend of February,
> > > > > RTTY WPX has no place to move ...
> > > >
> > > > What? Another RTTY contest on the first weekend of February? This is
> > > > starting to become pretty impossible.
> > > >
> > > > Also, I am probably not the best one to approach the FOCers about this.
> > > >
> > > > I am skeptical about moving the CW Sprint just so we can QRM a different
> > > > RTTY contest AND the FOCers to boot.
> > > >
> > > > I am pretty amazed that there are two "international" RTTY contests on
> > > > consecutive weekends. I think this needs to be fixed before any other
> > > > solutions can be explored.
> > > >
> > > > 73 Tree N6TR/Moron
> > > > tree@kkn.net
> > > >
> > > >
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