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Re: [CQ-Contest] Callsigns and licenses

To: Rex Maner <k7qq@netzero.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Callsigns and licenses
From: "Alan C. Zack" <k7acz@cox.net>
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 10:48:17 -0700
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What if a person holds a Tech license and uses an Extra Class's call. 
Legally he should not be on the Extra Class freqs but who would know
the difference?

Rex Maner wrote:
> 
> Quack's
> 
> I do this almost ever WPX contest,  with a common   K7??  call I borrow one
> from a friend who has a 220 repeter with the call WR7HE assigned.    Its his
> call and I can violate any of the FCC rules I want to and he has to answer
> the violation.  He isn't a contester and won't even get on and give me a Q.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kenneth E. Harker" <kharker@cs.utexas.edu>
> To: "CQ Contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 13:12
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Callsigns and licenses
> 
> > On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 10:57:17PM -0700, Michael Tope W4EF wrote:
> > >
> > > As far as the FCC rules go, the commission appears to be
> > > silent on the all too common practice of people using there
> > > callsigns at other peoples stations...
> > >                       ...If I go to location X and set up my
> > > rig, I would of course sign W4EF. If location X happens to
> > > be the address of record for say W6UE, am I now obligated
> > > to sign W6UE, or can I sign W4EF if I so desire? I suspect
> > > the latter is the case.
> >
> > The latter is the case.  You can use either callsign, as your
> > and the station owner's preferences dictate.
> >
> > In years past, the FCC would issue to Radio Amateurs both
> > "station licenses" (to which a callsign was assigned) and
> > "operator licenses."  In the 1940's, if you went to your
> > buddy's house to operate, your operator license would give
> > you permission to transmit, but your buddy's station license
> > would dictate the callsign used.  Today, the FCC no longer
> > distinguishes between an operator license and a station
> > license.  With mobile and handheld radios being as pervasive
> > as they are, maintaining the distinction is too much hassle.
> > So, your modern Amateur Radio license is _both_ a station and
> > an operator license, and your callsign can be associated
> > with any operation made from your station or any operation
> > made by you (or where you are a control operator.)
> >
> > One practice that I've never been quite sure of myself is
> > something that I think is only really done in WPX contests.
> > I know of several WPX contest efforts that have "borrowed"
> > callsigns of friends who happen to have more WPX-desirable
> > callsigns.  For example, W5xxx operates from his home
> > station but uses the callsign of AJ5yyy (not a club callsign,)
> > who is never anywhere near the operation of W5xxx all weekend
> > long.  The callsign AJ5xxx is being used by an operation that
> > is neither at the AJ5xxx station, nor does it involve AJ5xxx
> > personally.  This seems to be done often enough, and I've never
> > heard of the FCC or a contest sponsor complaining about it, but
> > it's never really seemed satisfactory to me.  Perhapos I am the
> > only one who feels that way.
> >
> > --
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> > Kenneth E. Harker      "Vox Clamantis in Deserto"
> kharker@cs.utexas.edu
> > University of Texas at Austin                   Amateur Radio Callsign:
> WM5R
> > Department of the Computer Sciences          Central Texas DX & Contest
> Club
> > Taylor Hall TAY 2.124                         Maintainer of Linux on
> Laptops
> > Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA
> http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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