Sorry, the only purpose of my mail was to remind that ham-radio contesting
discussions are not supposed to include
politico-administrativo-juridico-diplomatico-whatever issues...
If you want me to dig articles in the french press, about problems that occured
to french citizen travelling in states, I can do it (the french press is full of
them)... but this has very limited interest to me and it should be discussed
elsewhere...
Patrick
PS and sorry to say but don't have any relation in french customs, gendarmerie,
police de l'air et des frontieres, Air-France, .... etc...
I am just a normal citizen, who just happens to be holder of a french passport;
so nothing I can do for you !
----- Forwarded message from f6irf@free.fr -----
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 21:41:45 +0100
From: f6irf@free.fr
Reply-To: f6irf@free.fr
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Destroyed equipment in France
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Just copying an earlier reply...
What I consider "allegations" are at the end !
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 21:20:13 +0100
From: f6irf@free.fr
To: xxxxx
Cc: xxxxxx
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Destroyed equipment in France
I don't wanted to mention french-passeport travellers held for several hours in
JFK, or a few french citizen held several months "by mistake" in Guantanamo...
if you want examples, the french press is full of those articles about the risks
of travelling to USA...
But I still think that this sort of things is beyond ham-radio and contesting.
This was the only purpose of this mail... Sorry saw many hams who travelled
through France and French-islands for the last CQWW and I am not aware of any
problem.
Patrick
PS And sorry didn't heard anything about the amplifier story... but
1) this has nothing to do with the story related here
2) nothing to do with ham radio contesting
3) nothing to do with me...
4) sorry but don't you find the following statements "out-of-topic" on
CQ-contest list ???
> It appears that the French
> are very careless in these matters (SIC !)
> Avoid travel to France if
> > you have anything with you other than typical tourist
> items, and even then,
> > be prepared to find some additional things (perhaps
> explosives) when you
> > arrive at your destination. (SIC!)
> Hopefully, the explosives
> will not be
> > discovered by the authorities (which they likely will) -
> resulting in your
> > arrest! (SIC!)
----- End forwarded message -----
Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 16:31:48 -0400
From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Destroyed equipment in France
We have an expression in North America: If the shoe fits, wear it. In my
opinion, Riki's comment is valid and travellers (be they amateur radio
operators who are moving with valuable equipment that has been properly
packed or the general public) should be aware of the shoddy practices of the
French.
Further, the word "allegation" means "unproven" and in this case,
photographic evidence has been provided.
By the way, have you found the explosives so carelessly "planted" by your
bumbling
73
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 13:51:11 -0600
From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: f6irf@free.fr
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Destroyed equipment in France
Hmm, Let's see. Amateur-radio amplifier was blown up
by Air France. Seems kinda ham-radio related to me.
Richard Reid was allowed on a flight from, you
guessed it, France. It was officials at a French airport
who mistakenly planted explosives in a passenger's
suitcase.
I certainly don't think, in light of all the true events listed
above, that a warning to avoid travelling with ham radio
equipment on French airlines is at all out of place on a
reflector populated by folk who often travel for
ham-radio purposes.
If anybody is making stupid allegations, its the French
security folk who are allowing these thingst to happen.
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