Oh, God, not this again.
Can I get a clarification....
1. If I ask someone on the air whether or not they've heard a
particular multiplier, is that OK?
2. If so, why would that NOT put me in a multi-op or assisted category?
3. What if I still use radio-based packet for spotting?
Frankly, I agree that a contact should not be directly requested and
scheduled via packet regardless of the medium it uses but I fail to see how
asking your "assistant" for help in finding particular mults is any
different than shouting across the room to the op at the second rig to find
a particular mult. As far as I know, vocalization is a non-radio means.
73 -- Paul VO1HE
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of J.
> Edward (Ed) Muns
> Sent: November 15, 2006 20:19
> To: 'Alan Eshleman'
> Cc: nccc@contesting.com; writelog@contesting.com; 'K6VVA';
> cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [CQ-Contest] [NCCC] SS Packet DANGER,
> DANGER, Will Robinson!!!
>
> Alan, the issue is using Packet to request a QSO. Making the
> request on your radio is not an infraction of the rules.
> But, the thinking is that using Packet is a non-radio means
> of soliciting QSOs that is specifically prohibited in the
> rules. It seems to me that the Assisted, or Unlimited in SS,
> category creates a fuzzy line on this topic, but the common
> interpretation is that Packet can be used for spotting and
> not for soliciting contacts.
>
> 73,
> Ed - W0YK
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nccc-bounces@contesting.com
> > [mailto:nccc-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Alan Eshleman
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:07 PM
> > To: K6VVA; cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Cc: nccc@contesting.com; writelog@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [NCCC] SS Packet DANGER, DANGER, Will Robinson!!!
> >
> > Wow. So if I'm working phone and I say (over the air) to no one in
> > particular "if you work someone from NNY, send 'em on over
> here" that
> > puts me in the multi category? If that's true (1) I am guilty of
> > doing this in the past and (2) so are hundreds of others similarly
> > guilty.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Alan/K6SRZ
> >
> > At 10:25 11/15/2006 -0800, K6VVA wrote:
> > >SS Packet DANGER, DANGER, Will Robinson!!!
> > >
> > >With the SS Phone weekend rapidly approaching, I sincerely
> hope this
> > >helps someone else to NOT make the same mistake (out of
> ignorance and
> > >misunderstanding) that I did in the 2006 SS CW event.
> > >
> > >Special TNX to wise sage Mr. Wardster, N0AX, for his
> advice as to a
> > >solution in this matter vs. simply requesting withdrawal of
> > my humble,
> > >non-competitive log submission.
> > >
> > >73 & Good Luck in the Contest, Om's...
> > >
> > >Rick, K6VVA
> > >
> > >P.S. I am strongly considering the NON-use of Packet during
> > my limited
> > >QRV in the SS Phone event, so any pre-fill data with a "U" category
> > >*may* be incorrect ;-(
> > >
> > >RE:
> > >===
> > >
> > > >Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:10:20 -0800
> > > >To: kc1j@arrl.org
> > > >From: K6VVA <dx35@hilding.com>
> > > >Subject: RE: K6VVA ARRL 2006 SS CW Log Submission
> > > >
> > > >Hello, Tom:
> > > >
> > > >In an abundance of caution, and due to my ignorance and
> > > >misinterpretation of packet rules for the "U" category,
> based upon
> > > >several Reflector discussions, it appears I need to change
> > my K6VVA
> > > >2006 SS CW Log Submission from the category of "U" to "M".
> > > >
> > > >In my operational excitement of only needing the "NL"
> > section for a
> > > >Clean Sweep before having to QRT Sunday Morning, I
> recall making a
> > > >post (like others I'd seen) which I didn't even remotely
> > consider to
> > > >be "solicitation" at the time.
> > > >
> > > >Will this email suffice, or do I need to totally resubmit
> > a log with
> > > >the above correction in it?
> > > >
> > > >IMHO, there is a fuzzy thin line between "U" and "M",
> and from one
> > > >vantage point, I now believe there is really no
> > difference. In fact, I think "U"
> > > >should be changed to "MU" (Multi-Unlimited), because the use of
> > > >packet is really like having the benefit of thousands and
> > thousands of "Assistant"
> > > >operators.
> > > >
> > > >In any case, I believe a more detailed "WARNING" and
> > description of
> > > >what constitutes "Solicitation" needs to be incorporated into a
> > > >re-write of the SS rule.
> > > >
> > > >Please advise if my requested change can be made at the
> > ARRL, or if I
> > > >need to resubmit.
> > > >
> > > >Tnx & 73...
> > > >
> > > >Rick, K6VVA
> > >
> > >
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