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Re: [CQ-Contest] Assisted - still trying to get it right

To: kr2q@optonline.net
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Assisted - still trying to get it right
From: "Alfred J. Frugoli (KE1FO)" <afrugoli@verizon.net>
Reply-to: ke1fo@arrl.net
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:39:18 -0500
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Part of this whole dilemma comes down to enforcement.  There is little 
or no way to enforce the rules in the case of information being passed 
on 20M during a qso, someone pulling up to date propagation information 
off the web or from WWV, or the operator's neighbor ham stopping by and 
commenting that 10 was open when he left home - short of having a human 
referee at every station and listening constantly.  DX clusters are 
somewhat different.  You can see if someone logged into a cluster, or if 
they worked a spot immediately after it appeared on the cluster. 

73 de Al, KE1FO

kr2q@optonline.net wrote:
> It was recently posted that:
>
> [snip]
> That's not Single-Op Assisted, that's (technically) Multioperator.  The
> definition of "Assisted" in both CQ and ARRL contests is specifically
> limited to spotting assistance, with "spot" presumably defined as a complete
> identification of call sign, frequency, and time.  "Assisted" category does
> not cover all forms of "assistance" - as I discuss in this evening's issue
> of the Contester's Rate Sheet.
> [end snip]
>
> I couldn't DISAGREE more.  Please read the CQWW Rules:
> http://www.cqww.com/WW%20Rules%202006.pdf
>
> Note that it says, :
>
> "The use of DX alerting assistance of any kind places the station in the 
> SINGLE OPERATOR
> ASSISTED category."  That is a direct QUOTE!  Please note the phrase "of any 
> kind."
>
> Your stated "presumption" of the definition to mean the "complete 
> identification of call sign,
> frequency, and time" is your own invention and certainly NOT correct for 
> CQWW.  You have
> somehow narrowed the definition of "of any kind" to be something very 
> specific, which is not
> part of the rule.  You go on to state the exact opposite of the rule states 
> when you state
> that "the rules does not cover all forms of assistance."  When it comes to DX 
> alerting
> assistance, Yes it does cover all kinds!
>
> When someone says that the band is open "to the Pacific" and you are in the 
> USA (or VE or etc), it is my considered opinion, that such "notification" 
> certainly does qualify as "DX alerting assistance OF ANY KIND."  It's about 
> DX and it is assistance.  What else would you call it?  The fact that it 
> resulted in additional DX qso's is just more proof (but not necessary to meet 
> the criteria). 
>
> What if you are competing with your buddy in a "local" or "regional" or 
> "club" competition.
> You are both slugging it out on an equal basis.  You both have the same years 
> experience,
> you both have the same rig, antennas, and tower, and you both are at the same 
> elevation
> with the same "surrounding" terrain topography.  You are both approaching the 
> finish line and
> you both have essentially the same score.  Suddenly, someone "mentions" to 
> your competitor
> that "the band is open to the Pacific" and he works some extra Q's or an 
> extra mult or two,
> and as a result, he wins.  Are you telling me that he was not "assisted?"
>
> If there were an organized effort to find other club members and "alert them" 
> about band
> opening (say, on 10m during the sunspot bottom), and as a result, many of 
> those club
> members "discover" more Q's and maybe more mults, how could that NOT be 
> defined as
> assisted?  Does it make a difference if the "alerting" is over the internet 
> or over the HF air?
>
> Food for thought.
>
> DISCLAIMER:
> The concepts and interpretations mentioned above are my own and should not be 
> construed
> as any official or unofficial consensus by any contest committee with which I 
> may be 
> associated.
>
> de Doug KR2Q
>
>
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